#metoo heading for first crushing defeat

Magnatu

A few days ago it looked like it would be another easy victory.
Another reputation and life destroyed. Another victory over toxic masculinity.
The victim this time. A judge nominated to the US supreme court.
His crime. A woman had sent a letter alleging that he groped her sometime in the eighties and had laughed with his friend when she rejected his advances. Eventually she would settle for 1982, 36 years ago as the time of the incident. Details vague, no corroboration. A claim that she had told a therapist 30 years after that a "man" had assaulted her.
Other allegations followed. The judge had drunk beer in college. In 1985 he had thrown some ice cubes. Another accuser came forward with details of how the judge had organised and participated in gang rapes.
And it was enough. Politicians in the US prepared to throw him under the bus and destroy him as demanded. Including Trump.

Then a few days ago a very strange thing happened.
Men fought back led by Trump and bolstered by polling showing them that men and women were uncomfortable with the witch hunt. Maybe they too had tried in on with women in their teens. Maybe some of them had drunk beer in college.
Maybe one or two had even gone so far as to throw ice cubes
And now in a stunning reversal it looks like the judge will be confirmed.

#metoo movement is in shock and can't yet comprehend what has happened.
Is this the beginning of the fightback?




What neighborhood was it in? I don't know. Where's the house? I don't know. Upstairs, downstairs, where was it? I don't know. But I had one beer. That's the only thing I remember," Trump said in imitation of Ford's testimony.
"And a man's life is in tatters," he said.
"it's a very scary time for young men in America" who now may be presumed guilty even when innocent.
"My whole life, I've heard you're innocent until proven guilty. But now, you're guilty until proven innocent. That is a very, very difficult standard," Trump said outside the White House. "Well, I say that it's a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of."

circadian

*yawn*

Cuddlesworth

Hold on a second, there are people in Ireland racist and stupid enough to support Trump too?

Hande hoche!

This will surely be the end of Dumpf! Blue wave soon....

1800_Ladladlad

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Hold on a second, there are people in Ireland racist and stupid enough to support Trump too?

soy boy??

Magnatu

Hande hoche! wrote: »

This will surely be the end of Dumpf! Blue wave soon....

Actually polls are showing the opposite. There are a lot on males in the states and contrary to popular belief not all of them are emasculated and broken. Not all of them support the #metoo agenda either and this has energised them.

Hurrache

Takes all kind of stupid to use Trump's words from that rally to try back up an even stupider post

It's always amusing to see that people like the OP never venture into the Politics forum where a bit of knowledge and facts are a prerequisite.

Hande hoche!

Magnatu wrote: »

Actually polls are showing the opposite. There are a lot on males in the states and contrary to popular belief not all of them are emasculated and broken. Not all of them support the #metoo agenda either and this has energised them.

It's an interesting one alright. Could be an "October surprise" that ends up blowing up in the Dems' faces. Will be curious as to which way Flake et. al vote.

Pkiernan

The rabid anti Trumpers would do well to read up on the Bill Clinton rape accusations and Hillary's destruction of the women who brought them.

SEPT 23 1989

I think people over here are in for a bit of a shock in November

Hurrache

Pkiernan wrote: »

The rabid anti Trumpers would do well to read up on the Bill Clinton rape accusations and Hillary's destruction of the women who brought them.

Whataboutery.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Pkiernan wrote: »

The rabid anti Trumpers would do well to read up on the Bill Clinton rape accusations and Hillary's destruction of the women who brought them.

Indeed. This of course isn’t really about woman’s rights. It’s American partisanship.

Should be of no interest over here alright. Except this stuff tends to spread.

Hande hoche!

Pkiernan wrote: »

The rabid anti Trumpers would do well to read up on the Bill Clinton rape accusations and Hillary's destruction of the women who brought them.

Would throw in Keith Ellison, Al Franken and a few others too...

Cuddlesworth

Its probably worth pointing out for people who don't pay attention to American politics.

Brett Kavanaugh was nominated for the a supreme court position. Its a role you stay in till you die and makes all the major decisions of the land.

He was accused by multiple people of sexual assault when his name made headlines.

Testimony was given to the Senate about the assults.

In which numerous people have claimed Brett Kavanaugh lied during his testimony about topics that were not the sexual assault.

He also went into quite a rant about the Democrats, partisan politics and showed a lot of anger problems.


And all of this is basically for a job interview.
Why would anybody hire a person who showed self control issues and a number of people claimed abused them, unless of course it was simply to get one over on the other "team".

2 Scoops

Hande hoche! wrote: »

This will surely be the end of Dumpf! Blue wave soon....

zapitastas

Whatever about believing her, he has shown himself to be completely unsuitable for the appointment. Everything about American politics seems like a demented circus sideshow.

Franz Von Peppercorn

American politics is a clown show alright. The Chinese have probably spent the last few weeks doing political stuff that benefits China.

Cuddlesworth

Barry Buchanan wrote: »

It's amazing how people have forgotten the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

Its not a court case, its a job interview. There are around 20 other perfectly acceptable candidates to the Republicans.

Hurrache

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Its probably worth pointing out for people who don't pay attention to American politics.

Get outta here you liberal snowflake with your facts and reasoning, no place for sensible discussion around here.

Skylinehead

Where to start? Obviously politics, and then turning sexual assault into a sport where there's victories and defeats, yeah this thread isn't happening.