Removing a bathroom light

anneperkins

Hi, wondering if anyone has any advice for me when removing this light from my bathroom wall? Other than turning off electricity at the mains (or do i even have to do that? really clueless on this.....) i dont want to fill in the wall after or anything as I will be hanging a mirror to cover the hole. Thanks in advance.

J.R.

https://www.fruugo.ie/cara-shaver-edge-led-bathroom-mirror-with-demister-sensor-k1416i/p-23459850-51307852?ac=google&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0dHdBRDEARIsAHjZYYAzZdc_1ylLJ3p2H4pbonPFquw2dQlT_vZC4SOb-ytjX06P-INpYbMaAnzcEALw_wcB

you could use the electrics there to fit new mirror with light and shaver socket incorporated ...if you still want to keep those

tradesman

anneperkins wrote: »

Hi, wondering if anyone has any advice for me when removing this light from my bathroom wall? Other than turning off electricity at the mains (or do i even have to do that? really clueless on this.....) i dont want to fill in the wall after or anything as I will be hanging a mirror to cover the hole. Thanks in advance.

Be careful..... clueless & electricity is not a good mix! Get an electrician / handyman / someone in the building trade

BrokenArrows

1. Turn off electricity to the whole house as a safety measure.
2. Dont worry about removing the wires just in case you want to put a light back in the future.
3. Take apart the light and cap off the wires with something like the picture below. You can get them in any diy shop.
4. Tape the wire somewhere so that it doesnt fall down into the cavity.

anneperkins

BrokenArrows wrote: »

1. Turn off electricity to the whole house as a safety measure.
2. Dont worry about removing the wires just in case you want to put a light back in the future.
3. Take apart the light and cap off the wires with something like the picture below. You can get them in any diy shop.
4. Tape the wire somewhere so that it doesnt fall down into the cavity.

thanks a million, thats a huge help

Risteard81

That is incorrect advice.

Also, as this work is in a bathroom which is a special location as per the National Wiring Rules, this comes within the remit of Restricted Electrical Works and must, by law, be done by a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC). To do otherwise is a criminal offence.

listermint

Risteard81 wrote: »

That is incorrect advice.

Also, as this work is in a bathroom which is a special location as per the National Wiring Rules, this comes within the remit of Restricted Electrical Works and must, by law, be done by a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC). To do otherwise is a criminal offence.

Ted Plain

Risteard81 wrote: »

That is incorrect advice.

Also, as this work is in a bathroom which is a special location as per the National Wiring Rules, this comes within the remit of Restricted Electrical Works and must, by law, be done by a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC). To do otherwise is a criminal offence.

Hi Risteard81

Thank you for this information.

I was able to find the act which covers this (Electricity Regulation Act 1999 (Restricted Electrical Works) Regulations 2013), but not the actual regulations where it specifically mentions lighting in bathrooms. I did find one link which mentioned not being allowed to fit an electrical shower, but there was no mention of lighting.


I believe that this restriction might be covered by Definition for the scope of Restricted Electrical Works (CER/13/147):


3. The installation or replacement of one or more extra circuits in an existing installation, including the installation of one or more additional protective devices for such circuits on a distribution board

I guess since the electrical shower would need its own dedicated circuit, if one had not already been there.



All links I found tended to be interpretations and opinions and not the actual regulations themselves.

The addition from 2013 into the Electricity Regulation Act (1999) itself states:

4. (3) For the purposes of section 9E(1) of the Act, ‘Designated Electrical Works’ does not include:

(g) Minor electrical works including the replacement of an electrical accessory such as a light switch, the replacement or relocation of a light fitting where the existing circuit is retained, the provision of an additional socket to an existing radial circuit, or electrical works which do not require the issuance of a completion certificate under section 9D of the Act.


Would you be able to point me in the right direction as to where I can familiarize myself with the regulations? I did find this document, but am unsure if this could be regarded as the definitive last word on the matter:


https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/restrictedWorks.pdf



Thanks, TP.

Risteard81

Ted Plain wrote: »

Risteard81 wrote: »

That is incorrect advice.

Also, as this work is in a bathroom which is a special location as per the National Wiring Rules, this comes within the remit of Restricted Electrical Works and must, by law, be done by a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC). To do otherwise is a criminal offence.

Hi Risteard81

Thank you for this information.

I was able to find the act which covers this (Electricity Regulation Act 1999 (Restricted Electrical Works) Regulations 2013), but not the actual regulations where it specifically mentions lighting in bathrooms. I did find one link which mentioned not being allowed to fit an electrical shower, but there was no mention of lighting.


I believe that this restriction might be covered by Definition for the scope of Restricted Electrical Works (CER/13/147):


3. The installation or replacement of one or more extra circuits in an existing installation, including the installation of one or more additional protective devices for such circuits on a distribution board

I guess since the electrical shower would need its own dedicated circuit, if one had not already been there.



All links I found tended to be interpretations and opinions and not the actual regulations themselves.

The addition from 2013 into the Electricity Regulation Act (1999) itself states:

4. (3) For the purposes of section 9E(1) of the Act, ‘Designated Electrical Works’ does not include:

(g) Minor electrical works including the replacement of an electrical accessory such as a light switch, the replacement or relocation of a light fitting where the existing circuit is retained, the provision of an additional socket to an existing radial circuit, or electrical works which do not require the issuance of a completion certificate under section 9D of the Act.


Would you be able to point me in the right direction as to where I can familiarize myself with the regulations? I did find this document, but am unsure if this could be regarded as the definitive last word on the matter:


https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/restrictedWorks.pdf



Thanks, TP.

The relevant part is Number 2: "the modification, installation or replacement of a Distribution Board including customer tails on either side of the Main Protective Device or of an Electrical Installation in any of the special locations listed in Part 7 of the National Rules for Electrical Installations, as the case may be;"

listermint

Risteard81 wrote: »

The relevant part is Number 2: "the modification, installation or replacement of a Distribution Board including customer tails on either side of the Main Protective Device or of an Electrical Installation in any of the special locations listed in Part 7 of the National Rules for Electrical Installations, as the case may be;"

I guess he will have to pay an electrician then to push the 3 cores into a 3 way catch connector then.


Thanks for your input.......