Irish country music

SmartinMartin

Jesus H God-dancing Christ it is fcukin awful. I've tried to understand it, really I have, but Glor Toir this evening killed even that. This is the greatest load of bollix I've ever heard. Are there really people that like that shlte? I can't believe how many fcukers are making a living out of it.
As another poster said recently, discuss.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I just don't listen to it and avoid any programmes that include it.

Simples!

Rubberchikken

Just avoid it if poss.
I like some american country music especially the more blusesy (sp) kind.

SEPT 23 1989

dxhound2005

A recent thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057908792&page=6

biko

Same can be said about any genre, and probably is said about the genre you like yourself OP.

SmartinMartin

I know, but in a weak moment I happened to switch on to tg4 and decided I'd give it a go, just to try to understand what the fcuk country music has to do with Ireland. Bad mistake.

Atoms for Peace

It's a ploy of the lizard overlords to destroy our links to actual irish culture.

TheRiverman

Fake music :eek:

SmartinMartin

biko wrote: »

Same can be said about any genre, and probably is said about the genre you like yourself OP.

I like many different kinds of music, but this is just pure rubbish. What has country music got to do with Ireland anyway?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

SmartinMartin wrote: »

What has country music got to do with Ireland anyway?

We're a country.

d8491prj5boyvg

Stop the thread and let me off

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Cynthia Curved Thesis wrote: »

Stop the thread and let me off

One day at a time...

SmartinMartin

Sweet Jesus

Beechwoodspark

It’s by far the most popular genre in Ireland in terms of how many ppl make their living from it gigging and the audiences that go to see them week in week out.

Dakota Dan

SmartinMartin wrote: »

I know, but in a weak moment I happened to switch on to tg4 and decided I'd give it a go, just to try to understand what the fcuk country music has to do with Ireland. Bad mistake.

Admit it op you are a closet Daniel O’ Donnell fan.

Up in Caaaavan, we play both country and western.

Jimmy.

People who marry their cousin and have kids what can you expect.

JohnnyFlash

They love it up around Roscommon, Cavan, Monaghan and other nothing counties like that.

It’s a bizarre scene. American music influenced in part by Irish traditional music is packaged up and sent back to Ireland to be played by men and women in cowboy hats.

Lord Glentoran

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Jesus H God-dancing Christ it is fcukin awful. I've tried to understand it, really I have, but Glor Toir this evening killed even that. This is the greatest load of bollix I've ever heard. Are there really people that like that shlte? I can't believe how many fcukers are making a living out of it.
As another poster said recently, discuss.

I’m a family carer and have to endure this pish on a daily basis.

Burn it with fire, I say. Unnecessary key changes, reactionary gender roles, and unwarranted sentimentality about Ballypissant and being under Mammy’s thumb. Burn it!

Hidalgo

There's nothing I like more than someone from Longford or Cavan rattling on about driving their pickup to the local baseball game

daithi1970

It's fairly ****e, alright..its like they've taken Genuine American Country Music, removed the musicality and replaced it with sentimentality.
And Cavan accents.
Apparently Big Tom and the Mainliners had to change their name in the US asthe term mainlining had heavy IV drug abuse connotations..or maybe you just had to be heavily medicated to enjoy Big Tom...

Gaspode

Different strokes for Different folks. I like American country music but most of the Country n Irish stuff is quite poor - there is a certain sound a lot of Irish artists go for that is old-fashioned and twee, A lot of the musicians themselves are great but many of the big name singers are mediocre at best. Country is huge outside of Little England The Pale, people love it and a lot of money is to be made by artists.

Like any other genre, if you dont like it dont listen.

Someone once told me there's only 2 types of music in this world - the music you like which is brilliant, and everything else which is kack.

Atoms for Peace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-zEH8YmiM

Anesthetize

How do people allow themselves to be exposed to this type of music in the first place?

dxhound2005

Anesthetize wrote: »

How do people allow themselves to be exposed to this type of music in the first place?

They use their ears.

Anesthetize

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They use their ears.

There's their problem.

Never use your ears.

tupenny

Linda Scruffy Bass wrote: »

One day at a time...

Tireda goin round n round

The Crowman

The showbands have a lot to answer for, this Country N Irish bastardised sub genre evolved out of the showband scene in the 70's, though the stuff around now is ten times worse.

The Rape of Lucretia

To put Irish Country Music in context with other styles of music, 10 being the best, 1 being the worst and barely music at all, or only didactic :


(off the upper end of the scale and unrankable, Mozart and Beethoven)

10 : Schubert, Bach, Haydn range
9-7 : The greater part of the classical music canon,
6 : a decent portion of the top end of jazz, and handful of 20th century popular music pieces, the lower end but nevertheless worthwhile classical music
5 : Mediocre classical music, much jazz, snippets of folk or traditional music from here and there, the top portion of pop music
4 : some pop music, throwaway classical music
3 : simple traditional songs, a decent portion of pop music
2 : Country music, much pop music, 'Musicals'
1 : nursery rhymes, Irish Country Music, the greater part of pop music

(off the lower end of the scale : Rap, for those who call it music, although it equally be left out of this ranking, as not music)



So Irish Country Music has its place, for those who like that place.

dxhound2005

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

To put Irish Country Music in context with other styles of music, 10 being the best, 1 being the worst and barely music at all, or only didactic :


(off the upper end of the scale and unrankable, Mozart and Beethoven)

10 : Schubert, Bach, Haydn range
9-7 : The greater part of the classical music canon,
6 : a decent portion of the top end of jazz, and handful of 20th century popular music pieces, the lower end but nevertheless worthwhile classical music
5 : Mediocre classical music, much jazz, snippets of folk or traditional music from here and there, the top portion of pop music
4 : some pop music, throwaway classical music
3 : simple traditional songs, a decent portion of pop music
2 : Country music, much pop music, 'Musicals'
1 : nursery rhymes, Irish Country Music, the greater part of pop music

(off the lower end of the scale : Rap, for those who call it music, although it equally be left out of this ranking, as not music)



So Irish Country Music has its place, for those who like that place.

You left out yodeling.

Loves_lorries

TheRiverman wrote: »

Fake music :eek:

It's utterly contrived in sofar as we have no connection to country music, the Scots Irish founded country music in the apalachians, nothing to do with us yet the afficianodos would have us believe there is a deep connection between Ireland and nashville.

d8491prj5boyvg

Originally music was for dancing. Mozart became popular when music started to be listened to for it's own sake. In a concert hall.

Country music is not like this. It's music for dancing. At a dance. Not for sitting down and contemplating like a Mozart concerto or a Leonard Cohen ballad. The fans like to dance. They'd happily dance to the walk of life by Dire Straits or other good songs if they facilitated a dance.

Those who do put it on in the car or at home do so out of familiarity due to the dancing. The same way anto in his civic puts a bit of tiesto on when cruising the town. He heard it in the nightclub when off his face

Anesthetize

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

To put Irish Country Music in context with other styles of music, 10 being the best, 1 being the worst and barely music at all, or only didactic :


(off the upper end of the scale and unrankable, Mozart and Beethoven)

10 : Schubert, Bach, Haydn range
9-7 : The greater part of the classical music canon,
6 : a decent portion of the top end of jazz, and handful of 20th century popular music pieces, the lower end but nevertheless worthwhile classical music
5 : Mediocre classical music, much jazz, snippets of folk or traditional music from here and there, the top portion of pop music
4 : some pop music, throwaway classical music
3 : simple traditional songs, a decent portion of pop music
2 : Country music, much pop music, 'Musicals'
1 : nursery rhymes, Irish Country Music, the greater part of pop music

(off the lower end of the scale : Rap, for those who call it music, although it equally be left out of this ranking, as not music)



So Irish Country Music has its place, for those who like that place.

You left out grindcore, black metal, powerviolence, crust punk, industrial, no wave, noise rock, etc.

fxotoole

Anesthetize wrote: »

You left out grindcore, black metal, powerviolence, crust punk, industrial, no wave, noise rock, etc.

And Dad Rock

The Rape of Lucretia

Anesthetize wrote: »

You left out grindcore, black metal, powerviolence, crust punk, industrial, no wave, noise rock, etc.

I certainly wouldnt leave out powerviolence. Its there in the 'pop' category, and a good solid 2 it is.

Gaspode

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

To put Irish Country Music in context with other styles of music, 10 being the best, 1 being the worst and barely music at all, or only didactic :.

Interesting, but wrong. You've only touched on a tiny segment of western music, music is present in every society in the world most of whom wouldn't rate the nusic you scored as 10.

I prefer the theory that music has a simple binary scale. You like it or you dont.
Its too personal and cultural to put a more definitive scale on it.

JohnnyFlash

Anesthetize wrote: »

You left out grindcore, black metal, powerviolence, crust punk, industrial, no wave, noise rock, etc.

All these genres sound like they have acne, a fuzzy beard, and body odour.

jayobray

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

All these genres sound like they have acne, a fuzzy beard, and body odour.

You say that like it's a bad thing???

topper75

That 1-10 ranking isn't wrong if you limit music to technical complexity. Using such a scale would see a lot of mathrock outdo Mozart.

We are not robots though. Music is about many things but chiefly about expression, a feeling.

To rank it thus, some out there might turn that entire scale upside down.

I don't mind if they do. They are not in control of MY hifi.

Ciaran_B

I've been listening to Catherine McGraths album recently and it's really good. Kind of early Taylor Swift feel to it. More of this and less of the keyboard and accordion set please.

Lord Glentoran

Gaspode wrote: »

Different strokes for Different folks. I like American country music but most of the Country n Irish stuff is quite poor - there is a certain sound a lot of Irish artists go for that is old-fashioned and twee, A lot of the musicians themselves are great but many of the big name singers are mediocre at best. Country is huge outside of Little England The Pale, people love it and a lot of money is to be made by artists.

Like any other genre, if you dont like it dont listen.

Someone once told me there's only 2 types of music in this world - the music you like which is brilliant, and everything else which is kack.

I end up having to listen to Irish Country Music Radio for at least two hours a day as my mother’s carer. Holy jumping Jesus off the Cross but nearly all of it is beyond cack, more like a deep cack-hole that sucks modern life into a vast abyss of undigested antimatter.

The Rape of Lucretia

Gaspode wrote: »

Interesting, but wrong. You've only touched on a tiny segment of western music, music is present in every society in the world most of whom wouldn't rate the nusic you scored as 10.

I prefer the theory that music has a simple binary scale. You like it or you dont.
Its too personal and cultural to put a more definitive scale on it.

No, its pretty much correct. Those who wouldnt rate the music I scored 10 just lack the knowledge to do so.

Agree with you on the binary scale, though I would say pretty much everyone does like music, leaving only exceptions who dont. But, those 'prefering' music lower down on the scale are not doing so out of taste - it is indeed personal and cultural, but that is due to the limited musical exposure they have had, not their own innate preference for one over the other.
The higher on the scale you go, the fewer are familiar with the music of that level.

As shown pretty well in this thread here - we all have some familiarity with Irish Country Music. You cant avoid some exposure to it if you live on the island. But pretty much everyone does agree it is cack. There just isnt anyone who has a personal preference to it over Schubert songs for example, if they are familiar with Schubert's songs. There would be unanimity from the group familiar with both that the Schubert is better. And that the Irish Country music is gonk.
For those only familiar with it though, or bottom of the rung pop music, well then they will enjoy it, as they know no better.

dxhound2005

I am in the happy position of being able to enjoy a wide range of music. A bit of Schubert, a bit of Daniel O'Donnell and everything from Abba to ZZ Top. And I don't find any need to condemn other people for their tastes.

fxotoole

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I am in the happy position of being able to enjoy a wide range of music. A bit of Schubert, a bit of Daniel O'Donnell and everything from Abba to ZZ Top. And I don't find any need to condemn other people for their tastes.

Unless it’s Justin Beiber.

whisky_galore

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s by far the most popular genre in Ireland in terms of how many ppl make their living from it gigging and the audiences that go to see them week in week out.

Yes it's popular, just like Mrs Browns Boys and STDs are popular.

The Late Late Show

"Glor Tire" is awful drivel just like all the rest of these competitions. If it is music you want, avoid these things as they are not giving one proper music ever. These singers are not even country music singers but are ex boyband and "You're a Star" aka "The Voice of Ireland" aka "Ireland's got Talent" contestants. Lee Matthews, Jim Devine, Mike Denver, etc. are not country but pop music for culchies.