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Lock picking tools...?

  • 26-09-2018 3:51pm
    #1
    billy few mates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭


    Is it illegal to own a set of these in Ireland if you're not a locksmith...?


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  • #2
    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    to have them in public without a good legitimate reason certainly is


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    billy few mates wrote: »
    Is it illegal to own a set of these in Ireland if you're not a locksmith...?

    This thread has been done before and largely went unresolved. The actual law is very vague on the matter.

    But be prepared for various generalisations backed up by little fact.

    Like many things, if you were stopped and searched you'd probably need a reason to have them, but no worse than having bolt cutters or a crowbar in public.


  • #4
    KevinCavan
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    What are they?


  • #5
    juice1304
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    No it is not illegal. You can use them for locksports etc.. i myself have been involved in lock picking as a hobby for the last 15 years or so.. It is not a big deal.


  • #6
    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/50/section/15/enacted/en/html#sec15

    Law might be vague..but would you have an issue possessing them yes, would the police want a solid explanation, yes


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
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    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/50/section/15/enacted/en/html#sec15

    Law might be vague..but would you have an issue possessing them yes, would the police want a solid explanation, yes

    In the first line of that act it says "...with the intention that it be used in the course of or in connection with.." (list of crimes).

    Intent is the key word. If you're on your way to your usual weekly lock picking club or off to help Dublin city council with the lovelocks on the Ha'penny bridge then you're fine. If you get stopped, searched and asked about them as you're backing out of the local Lidl around midnight it might be a different kettle of fish.


  • #8
    Caranica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Search the forum, it's not all that long ago since the last lengthy thread on this ;)


  • #9
    GM228
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    In the first line of that act it says "...with the intention that it be used in the course of or in connection with.." (list of crimes).

    Intent is the key word. If you're on your way to your usual weekly lock picking club or off to help Dublin city council with the lovelocks on the Ha'penny bridge then you're fine. If you get stopped, searched and asked about them as you're backing out of the local Lidl around midnight it might be a different kettle of fish.

    It is worth noting that S15 (1) requires proof of intent, however, S15 (1A) does not, it is a strict liability offence, intent does not need to be shown by the prosecutor.


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