NCT (TUV) every 2 years in Germany, regrdless of age of car.

dohouch

Don't own car anymore, ( more satisfaction in being an angry cyclist :mad: )
NCT (TUV) every 2 years in Germany, regardless of age of car.

Any coherent logic for this?

Gregor Samsa

The German periodic vehicle safety test is called the Hauptuntersuchung (HU). TÜV is just one of the organisations authorised to carry it out. It’s done after the first 3 years for a new car, then every 2.

Does your question relate to the difference between the 2 year frequency, and the 1 year the NCT has for vehicles over 10 years old? In the UK, the MOT is yearly for all vehicles over 3 years old. Different countries, different rules.

German cops are much more likely to pull you in for defects or issues than the Gardaí, so you won’t “get away” with stuff as long as we would. There are people here who won’t replace a blown headlamp bulb until the NCT fails them. That doesn’t happen in Germany.

Renegade Mechanic

dohouch wrote: »

Don't own car anymore, ( more satisfaction in being an angry cyclist :mad: )
NCT (TUV) every 2 years in Germany, regardless of age of car.

Any coherent logic for this?

German people don't tolerate being rode up the hole in literally every aspect of their lives quite like we do.

In saying that, our roads are a lot worse...

Gregor Samsa

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

German people don't tolerate being rode up the hole in literally every aspect of their lives quite like we do.

In all fairness, having to do the test every year instead of every 2 for a car over 10 years old is hardly being rode up the hole.

A German colleague of mine once got a €30 on the spot fine for cycling across a deserted pedestrian crossing at 7am. And by “on the spot” I mean escorted to an ATM to withdraw the cash there and then. The notion that German society isn’t rigorously bound by the strict adherence to rules and regulations is absurd.

run_Forrest_run

I see nothing wrong with this OP, the fact that you'd often see 10+ year old cars in Germany means they have faith in their car testing system and insurance companies can't jack up the prices despite it.

run_Forrest_run

phutyle wrote: »

A German colleague of mine once got a €30 on the spot fine for cycling across a deserted pedestrian crossing at 7am. And by “on the spot” I mean escorted to an ATM to withdraw the cash there and then. The notion that German society isn’t rigorously bound by the strict adherence to rules and regulations is absurd.

that's brilliant. If that happened here the cyclist would be looking around for the hidden candid camera.

Kleine Hundin

Not only that but the TU and your insurance are part of your license plate. Everything is tied together. You can't register your car without insurance. If your insurance expires, the insurance company informs the local applicable vehicle registration office, and the cops will come around the stratch off the plate. If you move or or sale your car. It will get new license plates.
My colleague bought a 12 year old car from a dealer with a 2 year guarantee. That's something you'll never see back home.

munchkin_utd

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

German people don't tolerate being rode up the hole in literally every aspect of their lives quite like we do.

In saying that, our roads are a lot worse...

slight tangent, but thats böllöx, Ireland is so chilled on so many things

...... and as for tax
Ireland has an unbelievable 17,000 or so tax free allowance (on Germany youre paying tax after the first few thousand), zero contributions to medical insurance (15.5% in germany), no contribution to old age pension (9% in germany), want to get married in a church (or stand for someone at confirmation) - then only properly registered catholics in Germany paying the 8% church tax can do so , theres even a small extra compulsory tax for old age care ! And thats on top of income tax rates and PRSI thats equivalent to what you pay in Ireland.

And if you think the car owners are having it easy in Germany, ask anyone with a Euro 5 or less diesel what they think, when these cars are to be banned off the roads in Stuttgart next year with potentially lots of other towns and cities to follow.

dohouch

Doubtless someone here know what percentage of serious car involving road accidents were caused by mechanical failure in Ireland before NCT. Or in any country for that matter prior to introduction of vehicle safety tests control/testing

I think I saw somewhere a figure of 4% mentioned ? ( an vagueish memory, and not "ex cathedra" )

Cee-Jay-Cee

The Irish system isn't bad in comparison to many other countries however with the way Irish Insurance companies are dictating what we can drive, it wont make any difference in a few years time as we wont be able to get insurance on 10+ yr old cars.

Kleine Hundin

I'll be making my german tax return soon. I can claim some of the car insurance back. I'm not sure yet what the allowance is as it will the first time claiming for it.

Anyone want to guess how much I'm paying to insure my 2 year mercedes c-220, with me having no car insurance history in Germany? Open driving policy for over 25 years. Fully comp, 500 euro excess?
My 5 years driving history in Ireland was over 10 years ago, so couldn't be factored in.

Approx. 1,000 euro. Yes, it should be cheaper but I have no history and no claims discounts to avail of. I only decided to make the policy open to all drivers and they only charged me 11 euro for the remaining 3 months.

When I've been home and been asked to be put temporarily on my parents insurance, they wanted 90 euro for the week.

terrydel

dohouch wrote: »

Don't own car anymore, ( more satisfaction in being an angry cyclist :mad: )
NCT (TUV) every 2 years in Germany, regardless of age of car.

Any coherent logic for this?

Why angry? If it wasnt for cycling I'd probably have multiple homicides on my rap sheet.
Theyve a TUV for motorcycles over there too, means they dont mod them so buying from there is a good bet.

dohouch

terrydel wrote: »

Why angry? If it wasn't for cycling I'd probably have multiple homicides on my rap sheet.
They've a TUV for motorcycles over there too, means they dont mod them so buying from there is a good bet.

Was joking about being angry. I live in "de stix" so on odd occasions I'm overtaken with small margins, but mostly it's sheep dogs chasing.

If it wasn't for cycling I'd probably have multiple homicides on my rap sheet.

Were you a dangerous driver with unsafe car? OR what?

terrydel

dohouch wrote: »

Was joking about being angry. I live in "de stix" so on odd occasions I'm overtaken with small margins, but mostly it's sheep dogs chasing.


Were you a dangerous driver with unsafe car? OR what?

No, its just a brilliant stress reliever.

Pkiernan

Motor tax on my BMW 330i was E202 per annum when I lived in Stuttgart in the late noughties.

dohouch

terrydel wrote: »

No, its just a brilliant stress reliever.

Do you meditate while you cycle, OR cycle while you meditate? :rolleyes:

I was meditating/cycling with this thought in my head yesterday while soaking up the sunshine on Costa de Dingle (rare enough, the sunshine)

terrydel

dohouch wrote: »

Do you meditate while you cycle, OR cycle while you meditate? :rolleyes:

I was meditating/cycling with this thought in my head yesterday while soaking up the sunshine on Costa de Dingle (rare enough, the sunshine)

Nope, like yourself i live in the sticks so most of my cycling is away from cars, I find it great for clearing the head.