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Brexit implications for car industry

  • 22-09-2018 4:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭


    If we have a hard Brexit where would that leave type approval in EU for Right hand Drive cars?

    Ireland would be the only RHD market in the EU so will be worth manufactures time and effort getting type approval for RHD cars, or is this a non issue?


Comments

  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    There'll be no change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Uk will still be buying RHD cars from Europe after brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Most of the uk cars are made in the EU. So type approval won't be an issue.
    The cost on the other hand ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Don’t forget Japan is also RHD and with the new trade deal signed with the EU they will be selling more into the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    Most of the uk cars are made in the EU. So type approval won't be an issue.
    The cost on the other hand ...


    What about cars made outside Europe, ie best selling brands like Hyundai, Kia, Japanese made Honda’s and Toyota’s etc

    Will they have to get separate type approval for right hand drive to meet EU regs? If so then I wonder could this jack up the cost of cars coming here maybe leading to smaller ranges being offered?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭Patser


    Malta will save us, they're RHD too. Our combined populations will drive demand in the EU for RHD cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,750 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Cyprus also drive on the right. Worst issue for us in a no deal Brexit will be massive additional cost for importing used cars from UK, it will likely be same as importing used from Japan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    The UK will maintain construction standards to EU levels for the foreseeable future. While there will be additional approval costs, it should not feed down to modelnchnages or eliminations for major manufacturers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Cyprus and Malta are in the EU and are also RHD. Probably will mean a more limited range of models as there will be reduced demand for new cars in the UK once Brexit proper kicks in. They're not going to deviate from EU requirements right away anyway, and even if they were to change something, it's unlikely manufacturers would do something special for the UK (niche cars aside), it's not that big a car market compared to other single markets like the US, or our own EU single market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    I'd prefer if went LHD - we'd be able to import more from the EU instead of importing from the UK which will definitely have more expensive cars after tarriffs are applied


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭pah


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I'd prefer if went LHD - we'd be able to import more from the EU instead of importing from the UK which will definitely have more expensive cars after tarriffs are applied

    No thanks


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I'd prefer if went LHD - we'd be able to import more from the EU instead of importing from the UK which will definitely have more expensive cars after tarriffs are applied
    You'd pay for any benefits though higher taxes as many junctions and McDonalds Drive Throughs around the country would need to be changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Changing to LHD just because the British are leaving the EU would be the daftest thing ever, never mind the fact we will still share a land border with them, how is that going to work for people who live in ROI and work in NI, or vice-versa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    You'd pay for any benefits though higher taxes as many junctions and McDonalds Drive Throughs around the country would need to be changed.

    They just run the drive through in reverse not knock the building and build another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    They just run the drive through in reverse not knock the building and build another.

    So you pick up your food, then pay, then order?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    There is a EU-Japan trade agreement in place now. Surely, if push comes to shove there could be an extension made to that, allowing the few RHD countries left inside the EU to import Japan-spec RHD cars instead of specially adapted EU-Spec ones.

    Engines (and emissions) are the same wherever the steering wheel sits and there can't be that many other things that are different between EU and Japanese specs that can't be either resolved cheaply with a software fix or generously ignored (like strangely placed mirrors and such)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    In the initial slump of sterling you may see supply chains for some parts be constrained and perhaps longer delivery times / some increase in price for RHD models. You may also see a delayed introduction of RHD models of some cars, but its likely to be quite temporary (1 year tops)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    peasant wrote: »
    Engines (and emissions) are the same wherever the steering wheel sits and there can't be that many other things that are different between EU and Japanese specs that can't be either resolved cheaply with a software fix or generously ignored (like strangely placed mirrors and such)

    Due to different taxation in Japan, JDM models often have completely different engines to what's sold here, or the cars are substantially different - look at the Corolla Axio for example, which is the standard Corolla saloon over there and substantially different from export markets (smaller due to dimension-based tax, different engines, etc.). Also, you'll find pretty much zero diesel cars outside of Mazda.

    Wing mirrors are a thing of the past, except for taxis.


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