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Civil Service - CO to EO?

  • 20-09-2018 4:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I am wondering how long one would one usually have to work in a clerical officer/administrative assistant role before they could realistically apply for an executive officer role? Also would someone holding a degree be of an advantage?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    If on the open panel you need a degree.
    No time limit on open as it's an exam and interview.
    You need to be through probation+ 2 years in the dept for internal promotion as and when it opens up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Thanks for the info. Is it true the process for these type roles can take up to 5 months?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    splashuum wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. Is it true the process for these type roles can take up to 5 months?

    The process can take longer than that, I was placed reasonably high in my counties (top ten for both) and did not need to be vetted as it had been done 6/7 months previous for CO and it was still ten months from application to starting new job for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    The process can take longer than that, I was placed reasonably high in my counties (top ten for both) and did not need to be vetted as it had been done 6/7 months previous for CO and it was still ten months from application to starting new job for me

    Took me 18 months to go from application to appointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    The process can take longer than that, I was placed reasonably high in my counties (top ten for both) and did not need to be vetted as it had been done 6/7 months previous for CO and it was still ten months from application to starting new job for me

    Took me 18 months to go from application to appointment

    Wow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    splashuum wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. Is it true the process for these type roles can take up to 5 months?

    5 months is more like the minimum. 10-12 months is more usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Gambon


    I just got placement in Clonmel from the CO 2016 comp. Does anyone know where I might end up ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭n!ghtmancometh


    If on the open panel you need a degree.
    No time limit on open as it's an exam and interview.
    You need to be through probation+ 2 years in the dept for internal promotion as and when it opens up.

    That is incorrect. You dont need a degree (level 7) You need a qualification that is equivalent to or of a higher standard than a grade D in ordinary level maths and Irish or English, alongside five grade C passes at higher level of the leaving cert. Leaving Cert is level 5 qqi. I have an advanced level 6 qqi certificate (1 level below an ordinary degree) in computer systems and networks and was told that was acceptable as it's higher than the LC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Naydy


    Gambon wrote: »
    I just got placement in Clonmel from the CO 2016 comp. Does anyone know where I might end up ??

    Dept of Social Protection would be the biggest there I think but possibly also the courts service or Garda station?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Yeah, no degree needed

    Beverly Hills, California



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Gambon


    Hi. Has anyone heard of pay increases coming in March ? I’ve heard a rumour of entry CO pay scale jumping two places !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Gambon wrote: »
    Hi. Has anyone heard of pay increases coming in March ? I’ve heard a rumour of entry CO pay scale jumping two places !

    https://www.per.gov.ie/en/statement-by-minister-donohoe-on-new-entrant-salary-scale-issue-agreement-reached-with-public-services-committee-of-ictu/
    Where two additional scale points were applied to pay scales under the Haddington Road Agreement, it is agreed that there will be two separate interventions in the pay scales as they apply to ‘new entrant’ public servants recruited since January 2011.

    The two separate interventions will take place at point 4 and point 8 of pay scales. The practical effect of this is that for ‘new entrants’ the relevant points on the scale will be bypassed thereby reducing the time spent (by bypassing two increment points) on the scale for progression to the maximum point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭irishgirl19


    Can I bump this to ask are you eligible to apply for internal promotion from CO to EO after 2 years if you have NOT completed a leaving cert or degree. I am getting a lot of conflicting information. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭SomeSayKos


    Can I bump this to ask are you eligible to apply for internal promotion from CO to EO after 2 years if you have NOT completed a leaving cert or degree. I am getting a lot of conflicting information. Thanks
    you definitely do not need a degree, and I'm fairly sure you don't need a Leaving Cert if you've over 2 years service within the CS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    If on the open panel you need a degree.
    No time limit on open as it's an exam and interview.
    You need to be through probation+ 2 years in the dept for internal promotion as and when it opens up.

    That is incorrect. You dont need a degree (level 7) You need a qualification that is equivalent to or of a higher standard than a grade D in ordinary level maths and Irish or English, alongside five grade C passes at higher level of the leaving cert. Leaving Cert is level 5 qqi. I have an advanced level 6 qqi certificate (1 level below an ordinary degree) in computer systems and networks and was told that was acceptable as it's higher than the LC.
    So with that said - has anyone ever been accepted with a level 5 award the is not a leaving cert but is of equal or higher standard - like A levels, or level 5 qqi award?


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