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Field gate

  • 18-09-2018 5:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering what would be the best to go with, current gap along a narrow country road is 12 foot wide

    To allow for easy of access for machinery, would it be better to use a single 16 foot gate or would two 8 foot or 10 foot gates hung and tied with a chain on the middle be a better job?

    I have hung a few 16 foot gates before and find them heavy/they put a find bit of pressure on the RSJ

    Ta


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Pod123


    Sometimes it’s the swing in is more important then the width of the gate.
    Is the original gate straight on the road if so can you angle it back in to the field?

    If that can’t be done I would go with two ten foot gates but hinge on the field side so would open back completely that way you can angle either way coming in without catching the front wheel on the gate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Attie


    Don't like hinging gates on rsj as they flex to much.
    I hung 16 foot gates of the concrete post's which I dug by hand  30 years ago and most a are still standing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Attie wrote: »
    Don't like hinging gates on rsj as they flex to much.
    I hung 16 foot gates of the concrete post's which I dug by hand  30 years ago and most a are still standing.

    I see a neighbour has a gate hung off a narrow cattle slat, looks a good job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,973 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    In a similar sounding place I put 2 ten foot gates, hung off H Standards. Put a 4 inch block in the middle where they met, to prevent sagging.

    It worked fine, I needed the 20 feet as it was in to Silage fields.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Danzy wrote: »
    In a similar sounding place I put 2 ten foot gates, hung off H Standards. Put a 4 inch block in the middle where they met, to prevent sagging.

    It worked fine, I needed the 20 feet as it was in to Silage fields.

    Cheers for all the replies

    Think I’ll go down your route Danzy :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭grange mac


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Cheers for all the replies

    Think I’ll go down your route Danzy :)

    Apologies for going on tangent here but what is story with alot gates now having a hollow too and bottom..it the part that pivots is hollow. Any of ye have a Gibney gate....they are all tje coop has and just wondering bout their strength....when a muppet will go climbing over one...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Attie wrote: »
    Don't like hinging gates on rsj as they flex to much.
    I hung 16 foot gates of the concrete post's which I dug by hand  30 years ago and most a are still standing.

    I've only ever mounted 15ft gates off 8/7x4 I beams. No flex visible to the naked eye anyway.

    Only ever hung split gates over a road where I was conscious of the look.

    I can't imagine the weight need to flex an rsj in such circumstances. Are the being hung in the correct orientation? I've seen gates hanging off posts that are at 90deg and seen some sag, but never when mounted correctly. 6x3 is more than enough, I just have a heap of steel and like to climb instead of open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    grange mac wrote: »
    Apologies for going on tangent here but what is story with alot gates now having a hollow too and bottom..it the part that pivots is hollow. Any of ye have a Gibney gate....they are all tje coop has and just wondering bout their strength....when a muppet will go climbing over one...

    I think these gates are going to be falling down in a few years. Rang gibneys about it and all I got was arrogance and impudence. Their double troughs are a joke too. The weld are only sprayed with a zinc paint. Not totally dipped. Had a good few of them that the weld broke and the legs fell off. Thumbs down from me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Attie


    riemann wrote: »
    Attie wrote: »
    Don't like hinging gates on rsj as they flex to much.
    I hung 16 foot gates of the concrete post's which I dug by hand  30 years ago and most a are still standing.

    I've only ever mounted 15ft gates off 8/7x4 I beams. No flex visible to the naked eye anyway.

    Only ever hung split gates over a road where I was conscious of the look.

    I can't imagine the weight need to flex an rsj in such circumstances. Are the being hung in the correct orientation? I've seen gates hanging off posts that are at 90deg and seen some sag, but never when mounted correctly. 6x3 is more than enough, I just have a heap of steel and like to climb instead of open.

    Yep 6×3 plenty , I'm just showing my age year's ago would have been hung on light enough stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Cattlepen wrote: »
    I think these gates are going to be falling down in a few years. Rang gibneys about it and all I got was arrogance and impudence. Their double troughs are a joke too. The weld are only sprayed with a zinc paint. Not totally dipped. Had a good few of them that the weld broke and the legs fell off. Thumbs down from me

    Have you seen their new ones. They are all riveted. :mad:
    They had a good name for quality, why ruin it? Must have got an accountant in to run the place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Have you seen their new ones. They are all riveted. :mad:
    They had a good name for quality, why ruin it? Must have got an accountant in to run the place.

    Are they the real rubbish looking ones in Glanbia that are destroyed with galvanized effect paint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Ones in liffeys are v strong. One thing I always wonder does the bottom or top hinge take the most pressure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Ones in liffeys are v strong. One thing I always wonder does the bottom or top hinge take the most pressure?

    The top hinge is pulled outwards, but there is no weight resting on it. Lower hinge takes all the weight when not supported at the other end. Hinge is pressed back towards the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    The top hinge is pulled outwards, but there is no weight resting on it. Lower hinge takes all the weight when not supported at the other end. Hinge is pressed back towards the post.

    It's always the bottom pin I see going on older gates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    grange mac wrote: »
    Apologies for going on tangent here but what is story with alot gates now having a hollow too and bottom..it the part that pivots is hollow. Any of ye have a Gibney gate....they are all tje coop has and just wondering bout their strength....when a muppet will go climbing over one...


    To keep the costs(of the manufacturer) down!
    Even the solid steel ones are only solid for the first and last 3 inches, 4 inch solid bar plugged into hollow pipe and a few snots of "weld" thrown around them.


    Bought a 9ft gate in the co-op last year for around the shed, hung it and two of the cross bars literally fell off of one side within a week, no climbing done on it either, cowboys Ted, cowboys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Got gates earlier in the year from FRS, excellent quality, seven bar gates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Last few gates here hung off CIE /irish rail track using bo steel brackets. Carrying 16ft heavy half mesh gates no problem

    Also set up a few concrete posts over the summer finishing a job around where I stack the bales. But I had the rest of this done with concrete posts and 7 strands of wire.

    Very close to Gibney here and don’t buy there stuff. Better quality stuff on donedeal


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