Any way to change without losing heavily?

micks_address

Hi folks,
Currently driving a 172 skoda octavia very high spec 150bhp diesel dsg. Love the car but I'm having trouble with my back and think I'd do much better in an suv. It has sportline bucket seats which my physio reckons aren't ideal. I'm thinking of a karoq 1.5 petrol dsg. I'm almost afraid to ask my dealer what it would cost to change. On pcp. My own car has 32k km on it.

Is there any hope of changing without having to put significant cash into the deal? I'm on 0 percent with the octavia. I looked in vw and Volvo and vw were offering me 22k for the octavia.. I paid 35.5 for it. Volvo were offering 23. I know if I hold onto the octavia for 3 years the depreciation will have leveled off so I wouldn't be taking as big a hit. I'll chat to my skoda dealer next week but I cant see him offering me much more than 25k for my car if that at all. After clearing pcp balance that would leave me with about 4k for deposit on a new deal. Might just have to live with the octavia for another 18 months.
Thanks,
Mick

Lantus

The 1.5 engine has an issue and a fix is being developed. Wouldn't rush to get one.

PCP is under tremendous pressure rÃ႒© equity but octavia is a good car to have as sellibility is high.

I would just ask about cost to change. That at least will cost you nothing.

I'd also look at a troc from vw.

micks_address

Lantus wrote: »

The 1.5 engine has an issue and a fix is being developed. Wouldn't rush to get one.

PCP is under tremendous pressure rÃ႒© equity but octavia is a good car to have as sellibility is high.

I would just ask about cost to change. That at least will cost you nothing.

I'd also look at a troc from vw.

Have you any info on the 1.5 engine issue? I do like the look of the troc but it's probably on the small size. Two teenage kids. Maybe diesel again..

micks_address

Found this. Seems to be an issue in first gear? Doesn't effect dsg?

https://www.trocforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=266

bazz26

Worth reading too:
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057910972

BTW there is no way your going to get out of an Octavia and into another new car without spending a chunk of money. Cars lose a lot of money in their early years. You could try to sell the Octavia privately to reduce the amount you have to spend but that is not straightforward either.

AMKC

Maybe check out the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. Its comes with a 1.5 petrol turbo engine and it is very nice looking with a very modern stylish interior. Its quite spacious too. They might even offer you more for your car.

Lantus

micks_address wrote:

Found this. Seems to be an issue in first gear? Doesn't effect dsg?

Good to know. Pretty sure they will address this without too much fuss.

What's the waiting time on a karoq?

The Rape of Lucretia

There is no way out of loosing a big wedge on a one year old car. In fact, its already lost. So only a big down grade will dodge spending biggish money.

Cheapest way could be to get the seats changed. It wont help the height issue, but then its the seats rather than the height that your physio is advising are the problem - try some of the other Skoda seats which you might find less uncomfortable, and get them fitted. Or go to a custom outfitter to swap them out for something non standard that you like.

colm_mcm

AMKC wrote: »

Maybe check out the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. Its comes with a 1.5 petrol turbo engine and it is very nice looking with a very modern stylish interior. Its quite spacious too. They might even offer you more for your car.

That’s your answer to getting around depreciation?

terrydel

micks_address wrote: »

Hi folks,
Currently driving a 172 skoda octavia very high spec 150bhp diesel dsg. Love the car but I'm having trouble with my back and think I'd do much better in an suv. It has sportline bucket seats which my physio reckons aren't ideal. I'm thinking of a karoq 1.5 petrol dsg. I'm almost afraid to ask my dealer what it would cost to change. On pcp. My own car has 32k km on it.

Is there any hope of changing without having to put significant cash into the deal? I'm on 0 percent with the octavia. I looked in vw and Volvo and vw were offering me 22k for the octavia.. I paid 35.5 for it. Volvo were offering 23. I know if I hold onto the octavia for 3 years the depreciation will have leveled off so I wouldn't be taking as big a hit. I'll chat to my skoda dealer next week but I cant see him offering me much more than 25k for my car if that at all. After clearing pcp balance that would leave me with about 4k for deposit on a new deal. Might just have to live with the octavia for another 18 months.
Thanks,
Mick

If I had health problems bad enough to make me consider selling as per your circumstances, I'd sell and buy a more suitable cat with whatever I got from the sale. Your health is the most important thing. If that means taking a bit so be it

kindalen

Might be worth trying various different wedge cushions etc.. Chat with physio about them. Worked for me years ago, I couldn't believe the difference. Your physio should be able to tell you the angle your seat needs to be for you.

Widdensushi

32k in twelve months and you want change to petrol,do you plan on doing less k's?

Snotty

The back is one of the body's weak points, if you do more damage now, it might never recover. I'd be down the garage tomorrow morning and getting out of that car, keeping it for 18 months to save a few quid and reck your back is madness.

CeilingFly

micks_address wrote: »

Is there any hope of changing without having to put significant cash into the deal? I'm on 0 percent with the octavia. I looked in vw and Volvo and vw were offering me 22k for the octavia.. I paid 35.5 for it. Volvo were offering 23

You weren't on 0% - its built into the gross price, so you got less of a discount. The 0% is not transferable, so no value on that part of the price.

If there was not a 0% offer, I would guess the price could have been haggled to about 33k or less.

With 32k km on the clock its higher than standard depreciation, so €23-€25k is probably about max you could expect and that would be off the list price.

As above, a good physio may have a better idea.

listermint

What about swapping out the driver's seat.

Genuinely. Least expensive of all options can always put the original back when selling and it would be in superb condition from no use

Tbh the cars not sporty so not low. The seat is the only defining piece that's causing you problems . Changing the whole car seems a bit.....

MarkN

They’re lower down than an SUV or crossover, sporty or not is irrelevant here. Peugeot or giving better money than most on trade ins, could be worth a look at 3008. I know someone offered €1500 for his Volvo by everyone recently, Peugeot gave him €6,000 against a 5008. They get you one way or another but there could be less financial pain and their lumbar support seats are pretty good.

Casati

MarkN wrote: »

They’re lower down than an SUV or crossover, sporty or not is irrelevant here. Peugeot or giving better money than most on trade ins, could be worth a look at 3008. I know someone offered €1500 for his Volvo by everyone recently, Peugeot gave him €6,000 against a 5008. They get you one way or another but there could be less financial pain and their lumbar support seats are pretty good.

I would be very careful about assuming that every suv / cross over will be more comfortable that the Octavia, I have those seats in a Sportline Superb and find them great, but driving a Koraq recently I found a bit of back pain! I’d talk to the physio and explore options to make your current seats more suitable depending on the exact type of back issue your having

You car sounds lovely but it’s going to see higher depreciation than most other Octavia’s as it has a lot of extra’s that won’t hold their value. Having said that your car should be worth more to a Skoda dealer than anybody else so they might bid strong money for it

I had a 3008 as a hire car and found it great mind you but it’s easy to spend a lot on them too if you get all the bells and whistles and I can’t see a Peugeot dealer really wanting your trade in.

MarkN

Casati wrote: »

I would be very careful about assuming that every suv / cross over will be more comfortable that the Octavia, I was those seats in a Sportline Superb and find them great, but driving a Koraq recently I found a bit of back pain! I’d talk to the physio and explore options to make your current seats more suitable depending on the exact type of back issue your having

I didn’t say they’re more comfortable to be fair, I said the physical car will be higher, that’s just a fact. Seats in specific crossovers then as you say are a whole different kettle.

Casati

MarkN wrote: »

I didn’t say they’re more comfortable to be fair, I said the physical car will be higher, that’s just a fact. Seats in specific crossovers then as you say are a whole different kettle.

Yeah I was not really referring just to you but to the OP too.

Comfort in a car is factor of a range of attributes, higher versus lower cars force a more up right/ relaxed driving position, but ergonomics, suspension, chassis, wheel size etc as well as the actual seats all contribute to how comfortable it feels

Wildly Boaring

kindalen wrote: »

Might be worth trying various different wedge cushions etc.. Chat with physio about them. Worked for me years ago, I couldn't believe the difference. Your physio should be able to tell you the angle your seat needs to be for you.

Surely there is something you can do here.
Decent solid ortho cushion.

Or new seat. There must be a scrap Octavia some place??

Or there an Octavia owner out there wants bucket seats??

The crossover v saloon doesn't tend to make a massive difference. Not to me anyway. Seating comfort does

Wildly Boaring

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Surely there is something you can do here.
Decent solid ortho cushion.

Or new seat. There must be a scrap Octavia some place??

Or there an Octavia owner out there wants bucket seats??

The crossover v saloon doesn't tend to make a massive difference. Not to me anyway. Seating comfort does

Massive coincidence. After sending my uncle has just come in. 70 year old farmer with an terrible back. Reckons he prefers the wifes corolla to his landcruiser. Probably mainly the suspension. But try another Octavia with a normal seat. Even if you have to hire one for a week to see.

Then start ringing scrapers. You can keep your own seat to stick back in on resale

Avatar MIA

Would echo the thoughts above.

Does your physio think the current seats are definitely bad for you or pretty much a throw away comment. I'd ask him to confirm, also if a cushion or the like would compensate. Is there lumber support in the seats that can be adjusted?

Back complaint is a torture, but swapping a new car would be down the list of options... but if required you'll suffer the depreciation costs of all new cars.

Sgt Pepper 64

micks_address wrote: »

Hi folks,
Currently driving a 172 skoda octavia very high spec 150bhp diesel dsg. Love the car but I'm having trouble with my back and think I'd do much better in an suv. It has sportline bucket seats which my physio reckons aren't ideal. I'm thinking of a karoq 1.5 petrol dsg. I'm almost afraid to ask my dealer what it would cost to change. On pcp. My own car has 32k km on it.

Is there any hope of changing without having to put significant cash into the deal? I'm on 0 percent with the octavia. I looked in vw and Volvo and vw were offering me 22k for the octavia.. I paid 35.5 for it. Volvo were offering 23. I know if I hold onto the octavia for 3 years the depreciation will have leveled off so I wouldn't be taking as big a hit. I'll chat to my skoda dealer next week but I cant see him offering me much more than 25k for my car if that at all. After clearing pcp balance that would leave me with about 4k for deposit on a new deal. Might just have to live with the octavia for another 18 months.
Thanks,
Mick

why not just fit one of those back seat covers?

Mooooo

Is it getting in and out is the Issue or the actual position when you are driving? If it's getting in and out i would look at changing the seat to a swivel type one that would turn out to get in and out. If it's driving position sit in a lot and see what may suit. Also may be no harm to investigate further, if you already Haven't, with MRI or whatever. Friend had a bad back for a year or so put it down to sports, only after investigation he actually had a fractured vertebrae

beauf

I've always found sports seats far better for my back then regular seats. I've found Pilates with a physio that's specific for backs far better than anything else I've tried.

It might be the suspension is too hard. Theres a trend to make it too hard pretending to be sporty.

ml100

kindalen wrote: »

Might be worth trying various different wedge cushions etc.. Chat with physio about them. Worked for me years ago, I couldn't believe the difference. Your physio should be able to tell you the angle your seat needs to be for you.

I had the same problem a few years ago, bought a new golf with a few extras developed a lower back problem (I still the car seat contributed), any way tried a Volvo s40 much better seats but would have lost 12 grand in one year, tried several wedge sear cushions but couldn't get the right one, bought a camping mat (about 1 cm thick) and added layers of it to make a wedge shape, really helped, kept the car for 8 years!

terrydel

Snotty wrote: »

The back is one of the body's weak points, if you do more damage now, it might never recover. I'd be down the garage tomorrow morning and getting out of that car, keeping it for 18 months to save a few quid and reck your back is madness.

Heard an interesting theory on that. Basically we evolved too quickly from going around on all fours to standing upright, and the back didnt have time to evolve accordingly. Makes a lot of sense to me.

beauf

|The answer may not be a better seat. But to spend less time sitting.

cpoh1

Height of the car is irrelevant unless you are jumping in and out of it all day everyday - the key thing here is your driving position and lumber support. Raise the height of your seat and roll up a small towel for behind your lower back. 
Most importantly stop spending so much time sitting down in your car - thats doing the damage, not the car seat itself.

As a person who suffers from terrible back and leg pain i feel for you, its a terrible one to live with, hope you mend soon.

Turbulent Bill

beauf wrote: »

|The answer may not be a better seat. But to spend less time sitting.

This. You could lose your shirt on depreciation and still find that 32k km annually in any seat is still a killer.

Talk to your physio about core stability, Pilates etc. to improve your back, and try to take stretching breaks when driving.

beauf

cpoh1 wrote: »

Height of the car is irrelevant unless you are jumping in and out of it all day everyday - ...

I think the general idea is that lower sporty cars often have overly harsh suspension and tyres setup. Where as taller once generally have a softer set up. Not always but generally.

Sporty doesn't have to be harsh. But it often it is done badly.