VRT appeal with no similar cars to compare to?

VonLuck

I recently purchased a car from the UK, paid VRT and believe the OMSP quoted on the VRT website to be way too high. I've heard people being successful in making appeals when submitting a list of similar cars for sale online. I'd like to make a similar appeal, but unfortunately I can't find any similar cars!

My car isn't especially rare, it's just that it's not available in Ireland as a petrol model, only diesel. Would submitting an appeal with a list of diesel models and stating how diesel cars are typically more expensive get me anywhere?

Alternatively, if I submit a comparison of the diesel and petrol cars for sale on the UK website AutoTrader and show how diesel is the same value or more expensive be worth trying?

I have a separate valuation from Motorcheck which I believe to be an accurate price, but again, not sure if Revenue see that as a reliable source.

Marcusm

I would draw up a comparison of diesel models of the same car with original prices and current secondhand prices in the U.K. and Ireland to estimate a residual value. Then look at comparable petrol cars from other manufacturers in both jurisdictions. See whether the rates of depreciation are in anyway comparable and argue based on the one whclich suits best.

While in the past Revenue might have completely ignored UK values, the level of imports is such that they cannot be ignored when considering Irish secondhand prices - they now have a significant impact.

colm_mcm

Can you give some more specific info on what you bought

VonLuck

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can you give some more specific info on what you bought

It's an Audi A5, petrol. These are only sold as a diesel variant in Ireland so I am finding it difficult to create a direct comparison.

Would a dealership provide a valuation to support my case? I wouldn't even mind paying a few euro if needs be.

colm_mcm

Ah i remember your last thread now, did you end up getting the black edition?

What year is it?

CJhaughey

I think the appeals process has changed recently, the last time I imported you had to provide 3 examples of similar vehicles from an Irish dealer, now you just have to write in and explain why you think its too much and what you think it should be.
https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/appeals/first-stage.aspx

Mad_maxx

Has it gotten worse lately?

30 k for a jeep grand cherokee 2016 imported from Belfast but another 21 k VRT

colm_mcm

Is VRT on the Jeep at 36%?

Mad_maxx

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is VRT on the Jeep at 36%?

Don't know but mate said it could be higher due to emissions?

colm_mcm

Yep, so that'll explain why the purchase price and VRT price are so close.

Mad_maxx

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yep, so that'll explain why the purchase price and VRT price are so close.

Even in the case of a 2014 cherokee, the VRT is 13k where sale price is 23 k ( euro)

colm_mcm

Yep, if you think about it, the Irish open market price (if there’s even such a thing for a grand Cherokee) includes VRT. So assuming a 36% figure, those figures are exactly right.

Mad_maxx

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yep, if you think about it, the Irish open market price (if there’s even such a thing for a grand Cherokee) includes VRT. So assuming a 36% figure, those figures are exactly right.

a rise from 30 k to 51 k is a lot more than 36%

colm_mcm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

a rise from 30 k to 51 k is a lot more than 36%

The 36% is a percentage of the Irish OMSP, a figure which already includes the VRT. It’s not related to the uk purchase price.

(Assuming it’s the 36% VRT rate, it may well be less if emissions are lower)