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Female and male umpires in tennis

  • 10-09-2018 1:57pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

    Great for equality!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Relikk


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

    Sexist!

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭granturismo


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

    Are you trying to say that tennis matches with male players should have umpires and female matches can have any female refereeing? Mky.

    What about mixed doubles or where players identify off the binary gender scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Why stop at tennis? If you're to do this then surely it should be done for all sports. I'd say all the female officials in various sports would love to be told they can't officiate male games. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    How about we all just stay away from each other from now on – and die out. It'll only take 100 years – then we'll all be gone. Is that what you want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭granturismo


    Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Gender neutral umpires and referees all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.

    As a parent Joe

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    How about Serena just stops whining like hell and tries sportsmanship ?

    Sexism in tennis alright - against men, same money for more work.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.

    God I hope this was a joke am too knackered to get.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    I identify as an Aardvark OP. What about me? Who's going to umpire me? You're so narrow-minded and bigoted! It's all about males and females with people like you – do you realise how bigoted and hateful that is? I am an Aardvark – and you are deliberately excluding me because i am Orycteropodidae. IT IS WRONG!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Clearly our emotional frameworks are differently so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

    Abiding by the rules and accepting the penalty when they are broken would be fairer. That doesn’t need the same gender as referee.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    I identify as an Aardvark OP. What about me? Who's going to umpire me? You're so narrow-minded and bigoted! It's all about males and females with people like you – do you realise how bigoted and hateful that is? I am an Aardvark – and you are deliberately excluding me because i am Orycteropodidae. IT IS WRONG!!

    Game, Aardvark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer
    But emotion shouldn't enter the equation, the umpire is impartial and ensures that the rules of the game are adhered to, it's black and white, written a book rules.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    But emotion shouldn't enter the equation, the umpire is impartial and ensures that the rules of the game are adhered to, it's black and white, written a book rules.

    Yes but according to the feminists men would never be treated like that.

    Which is bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

    Are you saying that when the women get a bit emotional that the rules would then be ignored?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    So a male garda should only apprehend male criminals and female grads only apprehend females?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    So a male garda should only apprehend male criminals and female grads only apprehend females?

    This is sometimes the case


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    This is sometimes the case

    No it’s not. However, searching a suspect is usually carried out by someone of the same gender.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    badbot


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

    Bring back partition while you're at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea
    Why do you think it’s a good idea?

    Are there problems caused by Male umpires that would be solved by female umpires and vice versa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm not a parent so obviously I cannot take part in this discussion. :(:(:(:(




    (if I could, I'd say the OP's suggestion was nonsense)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    She has a history of threatening umpires with violence.
    She told one female umpire she was going to stuff a ****ing ball down her throat and another that if she saw them on the street she had better cross the road.

    Don't think gender is the issue here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I have to say fair play to Serena Williams, she is inadvertently highlighting the level of bull**** that is becoming acceptable.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out

    I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out

    At first I wasn't sure, but now I know you're just trolling.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.

    It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    Just tennis? Or will we apply this "emotional framework" to everything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis

    Emotion shouldn’t come into applying a games rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.

    It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis

    The umpire should definitely not work with the same emotional framework as the player. She was wound up and out of order emotionally - not because of her gender but because she was involved in a very high stakes match. The umpire should be emotionally detached and apply the rules. That’s a very different emotional state than a player. I don’t know what ‘emotional framework’ should have to do with it.

    I


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    Emotion shouldn’t come into applying a games rules.

    The TWA clearly feel they should


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The TWA clearly feel they should

    I think you should stick your hand in the fire. Does that mean you should?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Mod: No need for another tennis/Williams thread


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