Selling grass for bales

RobinBanks

Hi all

Does anyone have a rough guideline on what it costs to buy grass from field. Example would be I would sell grass to local contractor. He would cut, bale, wrap and draw away for himself or to sell if he chooses.

Let's say for example there was 50 bales in the field. What would you charge per bale.

charolais0153

RobinBanks wrote: »

Hi all

Does anyone have a rough guideline on what it costs to buy grass from field. Example would be I would sell grass to local contractor. He would cut, bale, wrap and draw away for himself or to sell if he chooses.

Let's say for example there was 50 bales in the field. What would you charge per bale.

15 this year. Depends on the type of grass)hi quality/low quality)

RobinBanks

charolais0153 wrote: »

15 this year. Depends on the type of grass)hi quality/low quality)

Thanks for reply. Grass gone to strong for grazing now so I was thinking of taking a 3rd cut off it.

orm0nd

charolais0153 wrote: »

15 this year. Depends on the type of grass)hi quality/low quality)

for a standing crop ?

Burning Tires

orm0nd wrote: »

for a standing crop ?

Selling for €20 standing crop here in middle of dairy central. More costumers than grass. West cork.

charolais0153

orm0nd wrote: »

for a standing crop ?

Ya?

Never wrestle with pigs

Bale it up in a few weeks and stick it on done deal for €40. You'll sell it no bother. Cash before collection obviously.

Track9

15 e for standing crop is reasoable for contractor . His costs would be less as he is using his own equipment .
Hes taking the risk & would want a profit also . Either way its a valuable when its cut & wrapped & prob sell at 40 e per bale due ton the shortage .

RobinBanks

Jeez I wouldn't have the neck to charge lads around here €40 a bale. €25 plenty

Never wrestle with pigs

RobinBanks wrote: »

Jeez I wouldn't have the neck to charge lads around here €40 a bale. €25 plenty

Was the same. But I had to pay up last spring and any time I need something it costs. Stick it up on done deal and off to whoever is willing to pay for it.

200 bales of haylage went up for auction last week after the local mart. They were bid to €48 each.

I'm not going to be afraid to ask for a few bob anymore feck it. If you went out to rent a few acres beside you, you would get the pole off the same lads.

Burning Tires

RobinBanks wrote: »

Jeez I wouldn't have the neck to charge lads around here €40 a bale. €25 plenty

If i sold bales at €25 from my own yard, I'd be loosing between €1 and €1.50 a bale.

Sacrolyte

Burning Tires wrote: »

If i sold bales at €25 from my own yard, I'd be loosing between €1 and €1.50 a bale.

Fact

RobinBanks

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Fact

Do you mind sharing your figures on what it costs you to get a bale into your yard

Icelandicseige

We sold bales to a neighbour in the winter/spring this year. He was badly stuck with the poor spring and had lots of cows . We had it tested at 79dmd. Gave it to him for €20 a bale as didnt like see him stuck. Still have not got paid for it. He got 60 bales. Thats what ye get for helping someone out!

Bass Reeves

RobinBanks wrote: »

Do you mind sharing your figures on what it costs you to get a bale into your yard

Fertlizer 5X18.6.12 =87.5/acre
Plastic =3.4( roll costing 85 euro/25 bales mixture of baling at 4 and 6 layers/bale)
Mowing, baling and wrapping 10/bale
Hauling and stacking 1.5-2 euro/bale.

Assuming a crop of 8/acre means a bale costs around 25/acre. Bales have gotten larger and heavier over the last five years as contractors use bigger balers and larger tractors. If you go for a heaver crop in mid late June at 10/acre you still will be at 24/bale

Silage made from now on is not the ideal stuff to buy, lower DM will be an issue. But well made late May bales if they are at at 30DM containing 240kg DM/bale are worth 36/bale valuing DM at 15c/kg. But that is delivered into yard. However nobody sell this type of stuff in general

C0N0R

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Fertlizer 5X18.6.12 =87.5/acre
Plastic =3.4( roll costing 85 euro/25 bales mixture of baling at 4 and 6 layers/bale)
Mowing, baling and wrapping 10/bale
Hauling and stacking 1.5-2 euro/bale.

Assuming a crop of 8/acre means a bale costs around 25/acre. Bales have gotten larger and heavier over the last five years as contractors use bigger balers and larger tractors. If you go for a heaver crop in mid late June at 10/acre you still will be at 24/bale

Silage made from now on is not the ideal stuff to buy, lower DM will be an issue. But well made late May bales if they are at at 30DM containing 240kg DM/bale are worth 36/bale valuing DM at 15c/kg. But that is delivered into yard. However nobody sell this type of stuff in general

And that’s with zero land charge, which would need to be €8 - €10 a bale assuming 20 - 25 bales a year and rental market is €200 an acre.

Question, if someone had 100 acres of land and decided instead of leasing it out they would go down the road of making silage and selling it, what would be the situation with nitrates, importing slurry and buying bag stuff?

charolais0153

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Fertlizer 5X18.6.12 =87.5/acre
Plastic =3.4( roll costing 85 euro/25 bales mixture of baling at 4 and 6 layers/bale)
Mowing, baling and wrapping 10/bale
Hauling and stacking 1.5-2 euro/bale.

Assuming a crop of 8/acre means a bale costs around 25/acre. Bales have gotten larger and heavier over the last five years as contractors use bigger balers and larger tractors. If you go for a heaver crop in mid late June at 10/acre you still will be at 24/bale

Silage made from now on is not the ideal stuff to buy, lower DM will be an issue. But well made late May bales if they are at at 30DM containing 240kg DM/bale are worth 36/bale valuing DM at 15c/kg. But that is delivered into yard. However nobody sell this type of stuff in general

Would it be advisable to feed hay or straw with aftergrass type silage that would be low 20's dm?

Muckit

charolais0153 wrote: »

Would it be advisable to feed hay or straw with aftergrass type silage that would be low 20's dm?

Barley or other feedstuff would probably work out cheaper and have better feed value.

memorystick

Burning Tires wrote: »

If i sold bales at €25 from my own yard, I'd be loosing between €1 and €1.50 a bale.

I made second cut in July at 4 bales per acre and it cost €20.50 per bale on cutsward.

Sacrolyte

RobinBanks wrote: »

Do you mind sharing your figures on what it costs you to get a bale into your yard

Sure.
Land charge €5
Fert. €7
Cut bale wrap draw €13
Wrap. €3
—————
= €28.
I didn’t include slurry as I feel benefit negates expense.
I’m sure others differ but I can’t see by much.

The Nutty M

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Sure.
Land charge €5
Fert. €7
Cut bale wrap draw €13
Wrap. €3
—————
= €28.
I didn’t include slurry as I feel benefit negates expense.
I’m sure others differ but I can’t see by much.

That famous land charge.

Sacrolyte

The Nutty M wrote: »

That famous land charge.

Last I checked they don’t grow on fresh air. Ha

The Nutty M

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Last I checked they don’t grow on fresh air. Ha

The last I checked I don't charge myself rent for my own land. But yes you are 100% correct, grass requires CO2, not fresh air, to grow.

Sheepman2

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Fertlizer 5X18.6.12 =87.5/acre
Plastic =3.4( roll costing 85 euro/25 bales mixture of baling at 4 and 6 layers/bale)
Mowing, baling and wrapping 10/bale
Hauling and stacking 1.5-2 euro/bale.

Assuming a crop of 8/acre means a bale costs around 25/acre. Bales have gotten larger and heavier over the last five years as contractors use bigger balers and larger tractors. If you go for a heaver crop in mid late June at 10/acre you still will be at 24/bale

Silage made from now on is not the ideal stuff to buy, lower DM will be an issue. But well made late May bales if they are at at 30DM containing 240kg DM/bale are worth 36/bale valuing DM at 15c/kg. But that is delivered into yard. However nobody sell this type of stuff in general

Are you charged for wrap on top of €10 a bale?

Sacrolyte

The Nutty M wrote: »

The last I checked I don't charge myself rent for my own land. But yes you are 100% correct, grass requires CO2, not fresh air, to grow.

I’m not rehashing this old chestnut. But I know where your coming from. I’m just goin a different route metaphorically speaking

Bass Reeves

Sheepman2 wrote: »

Are you charged for wrap on top of €10 a bale?

Cuting is 2/bale, baling and wrapping and baling is 8/bale, wrap/plastic is extra

Sheepman2

We, and all other contractors charge in around €10 a bale mowed baled wrapped with wrap supplied by contractor,it's the going rate around here, Donegal

TPF2012

Sheepman2 wrote:

We, and all other contractors charge in around €10 a bale mowed baled wrapped with wrap supplied by contractor,it's the going rate around here, Donegal

12 a bale in my part of Donegal.