traveling from UK to Orlando as IE/EU citizen post Brexit

Mc-BigE

Hello all,

looking at booking with virgin Atlantic for Orlando summer 2019,
(fly Cork-Manchester-Orlando return).

i know this is a crystal ball question, but can people see major issues with extra passport control in UK as irish/eu person(i would not be leaving Manchester airport -just a connecting flight)

and possible flight delays due to extra paperwork/checks needed?


Ive heard of possible flight issues for aircraft landing/taking off from/to UK if no deal brexit happens etc.

has anyone looked into this already for post brexit?
what travel insurance should i get if there are delays due to brexit and i miss connecting flights etc?

thanks

(sorry if this post should be in the brexit section)

I have no idea about flight issues or why it would make a difference to flights to USA from Britain.

Also, I don't know why it would matter about passports or if Britain is in the eu or not when it comes to connecting flights. You're not going to leave airside or enter the country.

I would book away! But then I'm no brexit expert.....

Antar Bolaeisk

It might be a risk. It's unlikely but a hard Brexit could cause flight disruptions between England and Europe as the treaties under which they operate may no longer be valid. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/michael-o-leary-s-wild-brexit-predictions-now-look-prescient-1.3307459


Travel insurance may not work in such an eventuality either.

coylemj

Brexit will make no difference to travel between the UK and US. The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) whereby all you need to travel is ESTA approval is approved for individual countries, not at EU level. For example, Romania and Bulgaria are members of the EU but holders of passports from those countries are not eligible for travel under the VWP, they need a visa.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visa-waiver-program.html

And lots of countries outside the EU like Japan, New Zealand and Taiwan are members of the VWP so the UK's exit from the EU will have no effect on travel.

coylemj

Let's also be clear that when travelling to the US, it's the name of the country on your passport that matters, not which country you've arrived from. For example, if you fly from Heathrow or Manchester to the US without doing pre-clearance, you will end up in the same immigration hall as people from lots of other countries and how they process you will be down to the passport you present. The fact that you have flown in from the UK (pre or post Brexit) won't count for anything.

So my post above (#4) really only makes the case that Brexit is not going to make any difference for UK passport holders when travelling to the US. The country you departed from only makes a difference if you did pre-clearance prior to departure in which case you will be disembarked at a domestic terminal which will allow you to bypass local immigration and customs.

L1011

The only Brexit risks are that the flight won't operate at all due to either no replacement air service agreement if the UK crashes out of open skies; or the flight being canceled as all the Brits are too poor to go abroad due to collapsing sterling. Both unlikely but possible

L1011

L1011 wrote: »

The only Brexit risks are that the flight won't operate at all due to either no replacement air service agreement if the UK crashes out of open skies; or the flight being canceled as all the Brits are too poor to go abroad due to collapsing sterling. Both unlikely but possible

you forgot famine, pestilence, the zombie apocalypse.......

L1011

Aegir wrote: »

you forgot famine, pestilence, the zombie apocalypse.......

The first two are probably the most likely to happen - food import and medicine import interruptions!

whomitconcerns

Bottom line ok is you can worry all your life about what might happen.

No one knows...all the above is possible. It's also possible that the UK will become a utopic beacon for all travellers.....

Do what you want and don't worry about it

goingnowhere

Or you could avoid all the stress and get a bus to Dublin, avail of preclearence and fly with Aer Lingus direct or with United/Delta/American and change in the US

No brexit issue here

naughtysmurf

goingnowhere wrote: »

Or you could avoid all the stress and get a bus to Dublin, avail of preclearence and fly with Aer Lingus direct or with United/Delta/American and change in the US

No brexit issue here

Inclined to agree, wouldn't even have to go to Dublin, Shannon has options too unless the savings are eyewatering going via the UK, the journey home will be tough especially if traveling with kids

Mc-BigE

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Inclined to agree, wouldn't even have to go to Dublin, Shannon has options too unless the savings are eyewatering going via the UK, the journey home will be tough especially if traveling with kids

already looked into it, for the dates im looking at, the manchester option is cheaper by a lot (when i looked).

regarding the home journey, i would still have a 260km/130km journey from Dublin/Shannon to Cork, but less than 15km if i park in cork airport

L1011

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Inclined to agree, wouldn't even have to go to Dublin, Shannon has options too unless the savings are eyewatering going via the UK, the journey home will be tough especially if traveling with kids

Virgin are extremely competitive on prices ex-Ireland so the savings are huge in certain circumstances. Business class particularly.

And this is for an airline that don't sell flights to/from Ireland themselves! Has to be bought from an agent to hook up the Aer Lingus feeder leg.

naughtysmurf

L1011 wrote: »

Virgin are extremely competitive on prices ex-Ireland so the savings are huge in certain circumstances. Business class particularly.

And this is for an airline that don't sell flights to/from Ireland themselves! Has to be bought from an agent to hook up the Aer Lingus feeder leg.

You have to balance price v convenience though, the OP has decided he wants to fly in & out of cork, fair enough.
A couple of months ago I was looking for a sneaky budget 9 night trip, early June, for 3 adults and a teen, the likes of Expedia & Tour America (I haven't booked a package since the 90's) were coming in at €2600/€2700 for indirect flights out of SNN, accommodation was one of the Rosen Inns, while not what we usually book, usually a villa or on-site or a mix of both, would be absolutely fine as we don't spend much time in the room anyway.

After the OP'S post, I had a look at the Virgin Holidays website to compare, little difference between the sterling / euro price for me for the same accommodation, the cheapest flights with Expedia & Tour America weren't great though, I'll admit that.

The pre clearance is a huge benefit, we are typically sitting in the rental car 35 minutes after landing at MCO, depending on how many international flights land at around the same time, flying from the UK, that 35 minutes could turn into 120 minutes, not funny after a 8/9 hour flight

To an extent, I understand the OP wanting to fly in & out of Cork, I'm only 20 minutes from SNN but I don't think I'd fly via the UK to Florida as the savings, if any, wouldn't justify the inconvenience for us

Funnily enough, a lot of UK residents fly indirect through DUB to avail of the pre clearance as they see it as worthwhile

Mc-BigE

i have booked through tour america here in Ireland.

regarding pre-clearance, yes its a risk, but im hoping to be off the plane at 4:15pm orlando time ( earlier than most of the Dublin-JFK(or Phili) connection flights, and be as close to the exit door of the 747 economy section as possible, so will be in front of the back/right hand side of the plane to immigration ( i think the baggage reclaim happens after the immigration check)

plus i have the added bonus of not being up at 4am to get to dublin or shannon.

time will tell if it was the right decision or not.

also i will be able to use the kiosk in the alamo car hire garage and skip the counter (and the hard sell crap)

naughtysmurf

Apologies, thought you booked direct with Virgin Holidays, sounds like your a bit of a planner, like myself, if you haven't come across it, Google MCO 2nd bag drop, just so you're aware & can make a choice of what to do