Combating Apathy

Pelvis

How do you do it? If deep down you just don't care, how do you force yourself do go to the effort of making a healthy meal rather than eat crap out of convenience? How do you decide to work on that project that has to get done, instead of leaving it for another day so you can just watch shoite on TV?

Sofiztikated

Dunno.

my3cents

If you're really apathetic you can't because if you get up and do something your not apathetic.

For Forks Sake

Meh.

riffmongous

Meh

Edit: Ffs

Owl.

Boring thread.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

There's no quick fix. You have to be able to have goals but they can't exist until you decide what you want from life. If you can set the right goals for you, then motivation will follow. If there is no motivation to do anything in any aspect of life then there may be other issues involved and a talk with a doctor might be in order.

Your Face

Force yourself to be triggered by every sensationalist news story.

That or list things you love doing and see if you could do one of them for a living.

Grayson

riffmongous wrote: »

Meh

Edit: Ffs

Is that For Fcuks Sake or For Forks Sake?

Pelvis

Pelvis wrote: »

How do you do it? If deep down you just don't care, how do you force yourself do go to the effort of making a healthy meal rather than eat crap out of convenience? How do you decide to work on that project that has to get done, instead of leaving it for another day so you can just watch shoite on TV?

I'll feel worse if i don't do it than if i did

Sky King

If you can't find one thing in your life that's worth striving to do well at, whether it's a creative endeavour, running a business, caring for someone or gardening you might be suffering a bit from depression? Maybe?

Boom_Bap

my3cents

The trick is to wait for the right time.

incentsitive

The key : Routine.
Friday night = take away/pub, Saturday = healthy cooking/grocery shopping. Monday = TV night, Tuesday = clean house night. Whatever, in whatever order.
Do the same thing and stick to the routine. Works for me. Discipline is very important too. Sometimes the thought of doing that crappy job is worse than the reality, and the reward at the end out weighs the effort.
Just my experience, but we are all different.

xckjoo

Try reading this and put some of it in practice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/1q96b5/i_just_dont_care_about_myself/cdah4af/

Ouch. Sounds like you're having a tough time max. That sucks. I've been there, so I kinda know what you're talking about. I've been in the ever circling vortex of self doubt, frustration, and loathing. It's no bueno. I know. If you don't mind lemme tell you a couple things. You can read em if you want, read em again later if you feel like it. But honestly man, if I spend all this time typing this out to you and you don't let it be a little tinder for your fire, well, you're just letting us both down. And you don't HAVE to do that. You don't HAVE to do anything. But you get to choose.
(Who am I? My name’s Ryan and I live in Canada. Just moved to a new city for a dream job that I got because of the rules below. I owe a lot of my success to people much cooler, kinder, more loving and greater than me. When I get the chance to maybe let a little bit of help out, it’s a way of thanking them. )
Rule numero uno - There are no more zero days. What's a zero day? A zero day is when you don't do a single ****ing thing towards whatever dream or goal or want or whatever that you got going on. No more zeros. I'm not saying you gotta bust an essay out everyday, that's not the point. The point I'm trying to make is that you have to make yourself, promise yourself, that the new SYSTEM you live in is a NON-ZERO system. Didnt' do anything all ****ing day and it's 11:58 PM? Write one sentence. One pushup. Read one page of that chapter. One. Because one is non zero. You feel me? When you're in the super vortex of being bummed your pattern of behaviour is keeping the vortex goin, that's what you're used to. Turning into productivity ultimate master of the universe doesn't happen from the vortex. It happens from a massive string of CONSISTENT NON ZEROS. That's rule number one. Do not forget.
La deuxieme regle - yeah i learnt french. its a canadian thing. please excuse the lack of accent graves, but lemme get into rule number 2. BE GRATEFUL TO THE 3 YOU'S. Uh what? 3 me's? That sounds like mumbo jumbo bull****. News flash, there are three you's homeslice. There's the past you, the present you, and the future you. If you wanna love someone and have someone love you back, you gotta learn to love yourself, and the 3 you's are the key. Be GRATEFUL to the past you for the positive things you've done. And do favours for the future you like you would for your best bro. Feeling like **** today? Stop a second, think of a good decision you made yesterday. Salad and tuna instead of Big Mac? THANK YOU YOUNGER ME. Was yesterday a nonzero day because you wrote 200 words (hey, that's all you could muster)? THANK YOU YOUNGER ME. Saved up some coin over time to buy that sweet thing you wanted? THANK YOU. Second part of the 3 me's is you gotta do your future self a favour, just like you would for your best ****ing friend (no best friend? you do now. You got 2. It's future and past you). Tired as hell and can't get off reddit/videogames/interwebs? **** you present self, this one's for future me, i'm gonna rock out p90x Ab Ripper X for 17 minutes. I'm doing this one for future me. Alarm clock goes off and bed is too comfy? **** you present self, this one's for my best friend, the future me. I'm up and going for a 5 km run (or 25 meter run, it's gotta be non zero). MAKE SURE YOU THANK YOUR OLD SELF for rocking out at the end of every.single.thing. that makes your life better. The cycle of doing something for someone else (future you) and thanking someone for the good in your life (past you) is key to building gratitude and productivity. Do not doubt me. Over time you should spread the gratitude to others who help you on your path.
Rule number 3- don't worry i'm gonna too long didnt' read this bad boy at the bottom (get a pencil and piece of paper to write it down. seriously. you physically need to scratch marks on paper) FORGIVE YOURSELF. I mean it. Maybe you got all the know-how, money, ability, strength and talent to do whatever is you wanna do. But lets say you still didn't do it. Now you're giving yourself **** for not doing what you need to, to be who you want to. Heads up champion, being dissapointed in yourself causes you to be less productive. Tried your best to have a nonzero day yesterday and it failed? so what. I forgive you previous self. I forgive you. But today? Today is a nonzero masterpiece to the best of my ability for future self. This one's for you future homes. Forgiveness man, use it. I forgive you. Say it out loud.
Last rule. Rule number 4, is the easiest and its three words. exercise and books. that's it. Pretty standard advice but when you exercise daily you actually get smarter. when you exercise you get high from endorphins (thanks body). when you exercise you clear your mind. when you exercise you are doing your future self a huge favour. Exercise is a leg on a three legged stool. Feel me? As for books, almost every ****ing thing we've all ever thought of, or felt, or gone through, or wanted, or wanted to know how to do, or whatever, has been figured out by someone else. Get some books max. Post to reddit about not caring about yourself? Good first step! (nonzero day, thanks younger me for typing it out) You know what else you could do? Read 7 habits of highly successful people. Read "emotional intelligence". Read "From good to great". Read “thinking fast and slow”. Read books that will help you understand. Read the bodyweight fitness reddit and incorporate it into your workouts. (how's them pullups coming?) Reading is the ****ing warp whistle from Super Mario 3. It gets you to the next level that much faster.
That’s about it man. There’s so much more when it comes to how to turn nonzero days into hugely nonzero days, but that’s not your mission right now. Your mission is nonzero and forgiveness and favours. You got 36 essays due in 24 minutes and its impossible to pull off? Your past self let you down big time, but hey… I forgive you. Do as much as you can in those 24 minutes and then move on.
I hope I helped a little bit max. I could write about this forever, but I promised myself I would go do a 15 minute run while listening to A. Skillz Beats Working Vol. 3. Gotta jet. One last piece of advice though. Regardless of whether or not reading this for the first time helps make your day better, if you wake up tomorrow, and you can’t remember the 4 rules I just laid out, please, please. Read this again.
Have an awesome ****ing day ☺

my3cents

xckjoo wrote: »

Try reading this and put some of it in practice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/1q96b5/i_just_dont_care_about_myself/cdah4af/

Nah can't be bothered.

xckjoo

my3cents wrote: »

Nah can't be bothered.

Meh

Fighting Tao

Vita nova

Pelvis wrote: »

How do you do it? If deep down you just don't care, how do you force yourself do go to the effort of making a healthy meal rather than eat crap out of convenience? How do you decide to work on that project that has to get done, instead of leaving it for another day so you can just watch shoite on TV?

Apathy could be a symptom of an underlying physiological problem, such as low energy levels, hormonal problems etc. Might be worth mentioning to your GP at your next check-up.

There was a poster a few weeks back who seemed to be able to relate all problems to BMI scores :-)

Dial Hard

Pelvis wrote: »

How do you do it? If deep down you just don't care, how do you force yourself do go to the effort of making a healthy meal rather than eat crap out of convenience?

I can only answer this part, but for me, it's very simple - vanity.

Well, that and the fact that I love cooking.

Boom_Bap

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Graces7

an old Yorkshire lady I knew used to urge us to "show a bit of grit and gumption" and she was right.