ADAC car reliability stats

Renno123

Has anyone come across these reliability stats before?
it makes some good reading. it is in German but easy to follow.
some cars coming across surprisingly poorly. eg ford focus
and some very impressive eg toyota auris (i dont understand the hate for this car)

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/29004_318390.pdf

enjoy

zilog_jones

Google Translate does actually work with PDFs, though the formatting is a bit screwed up:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adac.de%2F_mmm%2Fpdf%2F29004_318390.pdf&edit-text=

The tables show number of breakdowns in 2016 per 1,000 cars by year of first registration. I think.

At the end there is a list of common defects for each model - and there's a hell of a lot of DPF, EGR and turbo issues in there. It would be interesting to see what the petrol to diesel ratio is with the cars that have fared worse. I don't know about sales in Germany, but things like the Mondeo, Insignia, Zafira and Peugeot 308 are nearly all diesels here (in the past 10 years anyway).

Is there hate for the Auris?

Zubeneschamali

zilog_jones wrote: »

Is there hate for the Auris?

Well, I hate it if that counts.

zilog_jones

zilog_jones wrote: »

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Is there hate for the Auris?

As much as there is for the Corolla, Avensis etc.
Different to Prius hate I reckon.

Zubeneschamali

Augeo wrote: »

As much as there is for the Corolla, Avensis etc.
Different to Prius hate I reckon.

I hate the Auris hybrid a bit less, at least it is trying.

I must say a 4 day stint in a CH-R really impressed me. I had a week in a Prius 12 months earlier and I thought it was not great tbh. I think as I'd the Prius in Texas I was just fooking disgusted :pac:

zilog_jones

I own a Prius and don't really experience any hate, usually just a lot of questions - even moreso because I have the plug-in version.

But I'd agree, if you're renting a car in the US and don't at least get a V6, you're doing something wrong

Sure, most Toyotas are not particularly exciting cars, but they're competent at least.

I was helping my brother buy his first car last year, and ended up with a '09 Auris - sure it's bland as hell (and silver for extra bland), but in terms of interior space, condition (which I'd put down to durability at that age), practicality, spec (maybe at an advantage as it was a UK import), performance and efficiency (1.33 with 6-speed box) it was better than pretty much everything else we saw out there. And this survey suggests it will hopefully be above average in terms of reliability.

punisher5112

Don't you guys worry the auris is no more as Corolla hatch is coming back.

No more auris....


Avensis going and Camry coming back.

Alun

Had a test drive in a Prius and an Auris Hybrid a couple of years back when I was looking for a new car. I must say I didn't really find the whole hybrid experience a very satisfying one, but apart from that the interior of the Auris was like the inside of a black hole, darker than dark. Seats were as hard as nails too. Seen similar in other recent Toyotas I've been a passenger in too.

Renno123

zilog_jones wrote: »

Is there hate for the Auris?

it seems to score well on reliability but reviewers seem to be very harsh against it, scoring 2/3 star ratings in some reviews

Iodine1

Auris is taking over from the Micra, as the modern day Morris Minor: There is always one at the head of any line of slow cars. Not sure is it the car or the drivers........?

Renno123

Iodine1 wrote: »

Auris is taking over from the Micra, as the modern day Morris Minor: There is always one at the head of any line of slow cars. Not sure is it the car or the drivers........?

I don't know about the auris, but at the top of every traffic jam is a toyota yaris, without fail

punisher5112

I do think to myself are the reasons Toyota are so reliable that because the drivers hardly drive them at all and go so slow nothing gets a thrashing.

Iodine1

Auris! or Yaris!, no difference, same carry on. Maybe they just attract that kind of driver.