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  • 30-08-2018 11:08pm
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    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭


    Something been bothering me about the sequence whilst performing manoeuvres on a motorbike.
    which is it?
    mirror
    signal
    lifesaver
    position
    speed
    lifesaver
    turn



    or
    Mirror

    lifesaver
    signal
    etc?
    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Mirror
    Signal
    Lifesaver

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Something been bothering me about the sequence whilst performing manoeuvres on a motorbike.
    which is it?
    mirror
    signal
    lifesaver
    position
    speed
    lifesaver
    turn
    Correct.


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    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    zubair wrote: »
    Correct.

    My instructor tells me its mirror- lifesaver- signal so im as confused as ever. His learners have an impressive pass rate too. Does it even matter?


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    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    I was also thought mirror - saver - signal. Instructors pass rate seems good too.


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    Cian_ok
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Cian_ok


    IrishGrimReaper wrote: »
    I was also thought mirror - saver - signal. Instructors pass rate seems good too.

    MILF

    Mirror - check there is nothing behind you where you want to go
    Indicator - let them know you intend to move
    Lifesaver - check your blind spot
    F-ing move - (if safe) MOVE before the space is lost to another road user


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    D3V!L
    Registered Users Posts: 2,925 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    Cian_ok wrote: »
    MILF

    Mirror - check there is nothing behind you where you want to go
    Indicator - let them know you intend to move
    Lifesaver - check your blind spot
    F-ing move - (if safe) MOVE before the space is lost to another road user

    That's an amazing acronym !!


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    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    I approve of this Milf system.


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    Roadskill
    Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭Roadskill


    Always
    1. Observation. This includes mirrors then check the blind spot.
    2. Signal intent. This is done after Observation in case anyone or anything is in the blind spot and you cause them to brake or swerve.
    3.Position
    4. Second shoulder check (lifesaver) before steering if turning after position change.

    This is the correct procedure but for some reason it varies from test centre to test centre so some instructors conform to the examiners in their area. Wrong to do I know but if they didnt you wouldn't pass


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    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Roadskill wrote: »
    Always
    1. Observation. This includes mirrors then check the blind spot.
    2. Signal intent. This is done after Observation in case anyone or anything is in the blind spot and you cause them to brake or swerve.
    3.Position
    4. Second shoulder check (lifesaver) before steering if turning after position change.

    This is the correct procedure but for some reason it varies from test centre to test centre so some instructors conform to the examiners in their area. Wrong to do I know but if they didnt you wouldn't pass




    That's the way I've been taught, maybe this page from the book might shed some light on the subject.
    The picture shows the blindspot check before the signal.


    2rp743o.jpg


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    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Roadskill wrote: »
    Always
    1. Observation. This includes mirrors then check the blind spot.
    2. Signal intent. This is done after Observation in case anyone or anything is in the blind spot and you cause them to brake or swerve.
    3.Position
    4. Second shoulder check (lifesaver) before steering if turning after position change.

    This is the correct procedure but for some reason it varies from test centre to test centre so some instructors conform to the examiners in their area. Wrong to do I know but if they didnt you wouldn't pass

    Well I took test Wednesday and stuck to the way I learned. ( Exactly as roadskill posted here) and passed with 2 grade 2 and 1 minor none for observations at all. Terrible weather conditions , test was cancelled I had a chat with tester to see if he could take me later in the day as I knew a guy who had cancelled his 15:00 appointment and thankfully he agreed to so a big thank you to him as well. Test went well in difficult enough conditions and at the worst junction in cavan ( drumalee cross) wind had knocked traffic lights out so that was something I wasnt expecting and had to quickly adapt to. Think if you listen and learn from your trainer and stick to what you're thought its achievable for any competent rider. So I've gone from not having sat on a bike for 32 years to full A liscence in 6 1/2 months. Im well pleased with that.


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    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    Congratulations! I've my test in Cavan in 3 weeks, hope the fk the weather ain't bad.


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    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    IrishGrimReaper wrote: »
    Congratulations! I've my test in Cavan in 3 weeks, hope the fk the weather ain't bad.

    Thanks mate. Best of luck to you as well. If you get a chance take a run or 2 around the route in your own time. It will have you really confident and It will give you a chance to get your positioning spot on at the junctions and roundabouts. The route is pretty much set in stone except for where the uturn is done and the slow ride. Examiner ( if it's the same guy, a sligo man) was sound and very fair I thought as well.


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