Private to commercial.

Gorgeousgeorge

As above my hilux surf has been demoted from family wagon.

Want to convert it too commercial to use on the farm and in the course of my business.

So i have the engineers report and doe test done.

Goods only declaration done and signed by gardai

Weighed at official weighbridge.

Change of particulars all filled out.

Have tax book and last nct and tax disc both valid until november

Company is registered for vat.

Do i need anything else before i go to the tax office hate going anywhere not fully prepared.

And i will be able to tax on the same day for a year?

Thanks

colm_mcm

Don’t you need to have a CVRT done to tax it?

punisher5112

colm_mcm wrote: »

Don’t you need to have a CVRT done to tax it?

Doe test done just the old school name ...

Gorgeousgeorge

colm_mcm wrote: »

Don’t you need to have a CVRT done to tax it?

Yeah doe/cvrt was done at the same time as the engineers report.

show me the money.1

You will also need a tax clearance cert for the first time you tax in as commercial

uck51js9zml2yt

Have you taken out the back seats?

Depending on the MTO, you will either have to get it inspected at the office or bring hard copy photos (inside and out) including the reg in the front and rear photo.

Gorgeousgeorge

Lexi Whining Woodchuck wrote: »

Have you taken out the back seats?

Depending on the MTO, you will either have to get it inspected at the office or bring hard copy photos (inside and out) including the reg in the front and rear photo.

Yeah i have indeed it has its engineers report done and all. Rang the lady in the tax office today and she said she does not need to see the vehicle as long as its been signed off by an approved nsai agent

Eric Cartman

show me the money.1 wrote: »

You will also need a tax clearance cert for the first time you tax in as commercial

where ? never heard of this before ?

uck51js9zml2yt

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Yeah i have indeed it has its engineers report done and all. Rang the lady in the tax office today and she said she does not need to see the vehicle as long as its been signed off by an approved nsai agent

Which MTO are you using?

Make sure you bring hard copies of photos.
Show front and rear with reg in view. Also internal photos to show work done.
We needed them when been had conversions in for inspection.

colm_mcm

Lexi Whining Woodchuck wrote: »

We needed them when been had conversions in for inspection.

How long ago was this?

Gorgeousgeorge

Lexi Whining Woodchuck wrote: »

Which MTO are you using?

Make sure you bring hard copies of photos.
Show front and rear with reg in view. Also internal photos to show work done.
We needed them when been had conversions in for inspection.

Kildare. I will bring photos just to be safe. Thanks for that every little helps to be on the safe side

uck51js9zml2yt

colm_mcm wrote: »

How long ago was this?

Dublin needed them 2 years ago

show me the money.1

Eric Cartman wrote: »

where ? never heard of this before ?

Everywhere.

Goods or commercial vehicles

There are additional requirements when taxing a goods/commercial vehicle. If the unladen weight exceeds 1,524 kg (3,500 kg Gross Vehicle Weight), a weight docket (from an authorised weighbridge) is required.
If the unladen weight does not exceed 1,524 kg (3,500 kg Gross Vehicle Weight), a goods declaration form RF111A (pdf) (from Motor Tax Office) is required. This must be witnessed in a Garda station.
Additional proof that the vehicle is being appropriately taxed may be required, such as:

• Current commercial insurance certificate for the vehicle
• Evidence of registration for VAT
• Tax Clearance Certificate
• Notice of Tax Registration Form

Eric Cartman

show me the money.1 wrote: »

Everywhere.

Goods or commercial vehicles

There are additional requirements when taxing a goods/commercial vehicle. If the unladen weight exceeds 1,524 kg (3,500 kg Gross Vehicle Weight), a weight docket (from an authorised weighbridge) is required.
If the unladen weight does not exceed 1,524 kg (3,500 kg Gross Vehicle Weight), a goods declaration form RF111A (pdf) (from Motor Tax Office) is required. This must be witnessed in a Garda station.
Additional proof that the vehicle is being appropriately taxed may be required, such as:

• Current commercial insurance certificate for the vehicle
• Evidence of registration for VAT
• Tax Clearance Certificate
• Notice of Tax Registration Form

Ahh optional , not mandatory, any proof of business

Thatnastyboy

Never needed any of that malarkey in KCC,

Stamped RF111A with a pps number on it, job title & a few bob for the tax.

Gorgeousgeorge

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Never needed any of that malarkey in KCC,

Stamped RF111A with a pps number on it, job title & a few bob for the tax.

Thanks good to know.

Thatnastyboy

Hopefully your experience is the same, let us know how you go!

jeepcj

I'm on my 5h commercial vehicle and never had to produce a tax clearance cert, need commercial insurance policy but never tax clearance.

Gorgeousgeorge

jeepcj wrote: »

I'm on my 5h commercial vehicle and never had to produce a tax clearance cert, need commercial insurance policy but never tax clearance.

Iv no insurance on the surf at the moment as it was replaced. Will that be a problem

uck51js9zml2yt

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Iv no insurance on the surf at the moment as it was replaced. Will that be a problem

Yes.
It needs to be insured to be taxed

Thatnastyboy

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Iv no insurance on the surf at the moment as it was replaced. Will that be a problem

You would only need an unverifiable policy number.

Mine is a random sequence of numbers

Rows Grower

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Never needed any of that malarkey in KCC,

Stamped RF111A with a pps number on it, job title & a few bob for the tax.

Not sure where you mean for KCC but Kerry County Council deffo require all that stuff.

I changed from one commercial vehicle to another a few years ago and the new one wasn't originally regged as a commercial on the logbook.

Had to jump through hoops for them, they were the first council to trial run this whole new procedure and the rest of the councils were to follow suit.

The weight cert is only valid for 3 days as well if I remember right plus not only did I have to provide tax clearance I had to provide proof from revenue that I couldn't continue my work in a private vehicle.

Thatnastyboy

Rows Grower wrote: »

Not sure where you mean for KCC but Kerry County Council deffo require all that stuff.

I changed from one commercial vehicle to another a few years ago and the new one wasn't originally regged as a commercial on the logbook.

Had to jump through hoops for them, they were the first council to trial run this whole new procedure and the rest of the councils were to follow suit.

The weight cert is only valid for 3 days as well if I remember right plus not only did I have to provide tax clearance I had to provide proof from revenue that I couldn't continue my work in a private vehicle.

Different KCC - Kildare CO CO.


Sounds like hardship though, such an amount of unnecessary shyte for the sake of a vehicles classification on paper....

ELM327

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Different KCC - Kildare CO CO.


Sounds like hardship though, such an amount of unnecessary shyte for the sake of a vehicles classification on paper....

It's not though, it's for a discount on motor tax from generally a four figure sum annually to 333.

uck51js9zml2yt

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

You would only need an unverifiable policy number.

Mine is a random sequence of numbers

When you know what you're talking about come back to us!

For first time commercial taxing. A commercial insurance policy needs to be shown at the time of taxing.it can be done online after that with no verification needed.

ELM327

Lexi Whining Woodchuck wrote: »

When you know what you're talking about come back to us!

For first time commercial taxing. A commercial insurance policy needs to be shown at the time of taxing.it can be done online after that with no verification needed.

Not needed from kildare county council when I taxed a goods vehicle at the goods rate for the first time.
Policy number only. Which was for a vintage policy.

Thatnastyboy

Lexi Whining Woodchuck wrote: »

When you know what you're talking about come back to us!

Will do, cheers :pac:

ELM327 wrote: »

Not needed from kildare county council when I taxed a goods vehicle at the goods rate for the first time.
Policy number only. Which was for a vintage policy.

Gorgeousgeorge

Just for anyone searching this in future.

Got it all sorted today. Went to the tax office with my

Engineers report
Crvt cert and disc
Rf111a goods only declaration
Rf111 Change of particulars form
Weight docket from authorised weigh bridge

That was it. No inspection or any thing like that. Jobs done just waiting for my new log book.

Thanks to everyone for the help. All in all was a very easy process

jeepcj

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Just for anyone searching this in future.

Got it all sorted today. Went to the tax office with my

Engineers report
Crvt cert and disc
Rf111a goods only declaration
Rf111 Change of particulars form
Weight docket from authorised weigh bridge

That was it. No inspection or any thing like that. Jobs done just waiting for my new log book.

Thanks to everyone for the help. All in all was a very easy process

Did you get it crew cabbed or 2 seater?

Gorgeousgeorge

2 seater. I believe the crew cab thing may be gone but im not sure.