Contract woes

deflated17

Apologies for this thread but I'm wracking my brain with the maths on this one It must be 'back to school brain'. I know someone will help me

Anyway, I have secured an 11 RPT but it has a long commute. There is a maternity for 18 hours that I'm very interested in but application date has not passed as yet. This school has a good reputation and I would like to work there but I'm investigating the money side of it??? Here's my problem:
(BTW: I'm pre 2011 so get allowances)

RPT
Point 5 on payscale : 38,751
Dip : 1,236
Degree : 4,918

Total : 44,918

44,918/52 = 863.55
863.55/22 = 39.25

39.25 * 11 = 431.77 weekly
431.77 * 2 = 863.55 monthly
863.55 * 12 = 10,362.60 - how can this be? Should it not be half my point on scale??

Maternity
Same as above

44,918/735 = 61.11
61.11 * 18 = 1,100.03 weekly
Maternity = 26 weeks = 28,600.49

Even if I calculate this with my hours there is a discrepancy
61.11 * 11 = 672.21
26 weeks = 17,477.26

Am I losing it?? Are maternity leaves more financially beneficial and RPT is for permanency? Could someone look at my figures???

I was using the union website for guidance https://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/non-permanent-teachers/what-contract-do-you-have/regular-part-time-teacher/

Thanks in advance.

Sixtoes

I’m no “teacher” but shouldn’t it be 431.77 * 4 then that answer by 12. Or just multiply the 431.77 *52. ?

deflated17

deflated17 wrote: »

Apologies for this thread but I'm wracking my brain with the maths on this one It must be 'back to school brain'. I know someone will help me

Anyway, I have secured an 11 RPT but it has a long commute. There is a maternity for 18 hours that I'm very interested in but application date has not passed as yet. This school has a good reputation and I would like to work there but I'm investigating the money side of it??? Here's my problem:
(BTW: I'm pre 2011 so get allowances)

RPT
Point 5 on payscale : 38,751
Dip : 1,236
Degree : 4,918

Total : 44,918

44,918/52 = 863.55
863.55/22 = 39.25

39.25 * 11 = 431.77 weekly
431.77 * 2 = 863.55 monthly
863.55 * 12 = 10,362.60 - how can this be? Should it not be half my point on scale??

Maternity
Same as above

44,918/735 = 61.11
61.11 * 18 = 1,100.03 weekly
Maternity = 26 weeks = 28,600.49

Even if I calculate this with my hours there is a discrepancy
61.11 * 11 = 672.21
26 weeks = 17,477.26

Am I losing it?? Are maternity leaves more financially beneficial and RPT is for permanency? Could someone look at my figures???

I was using the union website for guidance https://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/non-permanent-teachers/what-contract-do-you-have/regular-part-time-teacher/

Thanks in advance.

A kind poster has solved the problem!!!! I didn't multiply the gross pay by 2

i.e. 431.77 * 2 = 863.55 gross pay per payslip * 2 = 1,727.08
1,727.08 * 12 = 20,724.96

Thanks!!

deflated17

Sixtoes wrote: »

I’m no “teacher” but shouldn’t it be 431.77 * 4 then that answer by 12. Or just multiply the 431.77 *52. ?

We're not all maths teachers

rainbowtrout

It's still wrong. There are more than 4 weeks in a month.


There are 52 weeks in a year.

If you are calculating for 12 months with 4 weeks in each you are only calculating for 48 weeks.

The simplest way to calculate pay for 11 hours is to divide gross salary by 2, and then divide by 12 for monthly pay or 52 for weekly.

Sir123

If you are department paid, make sure you divide your weekly salary by 52.18,or fortnightly salary by 26.09 to get your gross pay. Not too sure way this is , maybe a geography/science person would have the answer to that.

Also be aware that you may be refused social welfare payments for periods you are not paid. This is now what's happening if your gross yearly salary exceeds their limit, not sure what it is. I know people who have done year long maternity leaves and were unable to apply for social welfare during summer as they earned too much. This is particularly relevant to you if you decide to take the maternity leave option. The 11 rpt contract would be paid evenly over the 26.09 paycheques, albeit a much smaller amount. Good luck with your decision.

ke3jnzo8bwihy0

I believe the maths for the substitute position may be significantly wrong also possibly!
Maternity is sub pay not RPT.
You are not on a personal rate per hour until you’ve done 150 hours as far as I know which is almost 8.5 weeks work at standard substitute rate in 18 hr position.

46.85 *8.5 weeks (on pre2011 scale)
No pay other than holiday pay for Halloween break.
No pay other than holiday pay for Christmas/Mid term break.
Salary/735 for hours after first 150 completed.

You will also have 11% taken off each pay as holiday pay.

joebloggs32

Sir123 wrote: »

If you are department paid, make sure you divide your weekly salary by 52.18,or fortnightly salary by 26.09 to get your gross pay. Not too sure way this is , maybe a geography/science person would have the answer to that.

Also be aware that you may be refused social welfare payments for periods you are not paid. This is now what's happening if your gross yearly salary exceeds their limit, not sure what it is. I know people who have done year long maternity leaves and were unable to apply for social welfare during summer as they earned too much. This is particularly relevant to you if you decide to take the maternity leave option. The 11 rpt contract would be paid evenly over the 26.09 paycheques, albeit a much smaller amount. Good luck with your decision.

The 26.09 comes from a year having 365 days or 52 weeks and one day, but once every 4 years its 366. Too balance out that extra day/2 days over a four year cycle the calculation.is based on 26.09.
It does/can happen that in some calendar years we get 27 pay packets.