Lenovo laptop bundle Tesco

by8auj6csd3ioq

Saw Lenovo laptop bundle in Tesco 1TB disk/8GB ram Amd Dual core chip 380 euro I think ? The disk and ram sound good. Anyone know about AMD dual core. Can't be more specific, i cannot find the laptop online

TerrorFirmer

Probably an A6 processor, which are pretty terrible, and definitely not good value at €380. Currys have much faster laptops starting at around €350.

by8auj6csd3ioq

The box says AMD 9410 dual core lenovo v11080TD000DUK

Far as i can tell it is this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-80TD000DUK-A9-9410-Processor-Windows/dp/B0767BNZ46

TerrorFirmer

Wouldn't bother. Currys have faster machines for less.

by8auj6csd3ioq

all the replies here seem like ads for currys

by8auj6csd3ioq

Currys have much faster laptops starting at around 350.

is there one with 8GB RAM 350 -380? Having problem quoting

mordeith

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

is there one with 8GB RAM 350 -380? Having problem quoting

You're overestimating the impact of 8GB RAM. Should be standard on any decent laptop these days anyway. A decent processor and ideally and SSD are also what you'd want. Maybe not possible at that price point but don't get up on the 8GB

TerrorFirmer

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

is there one with 8GB RAM 350 -380? Having problem quoting

Currys have a Pentium Gold (basically i3) with 4GB ram and SSD in that range.

Would out perform the Tesco laptop leaps and bounds, in processing power and boot up times.

Noones shilling Currys...just trying to offer the best value.

by8auj6csd3ioq

I am not bothered about boot times or SSD. 128GB is a long way from the 1TB in storage of the Tesco one and 4 GB RAM is pretty small

TerrorFirmer

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

I am not bothered about boot times or SSD. 128GB is a long way from the 1TB in storage of the Tesco one and 4 GB RAM is pretty small

Fair enough. If that's your priority, grand. The Tesco laptop is fine, if you really need 1TB of space, and actually need 8GB of ram for something specific.

The Currys laptop is twice as fast and boots up, and runs, probably three times as fast.

Pros and cons, whatever works best for you really.

by8auj6csd3ioq

"The Currys laptop is twice as fast and boots up, and runs, probably three times as fast."

I doubt that

TerrorFirmer

OK, go and buy the Tesco laptop then? Not sure why you're so hostile, your first message was to say "all the replies here seem like ads for currys" even though I was the only person to reply, so clearly for some reason you want to be convinced that the Tesco laptop is the better buy.

Why bother asking for advice? The Tesco laptop is just fine, wouldn't be my first choice, but it's not terrible.

Unless you have specific use for 8GB ram and actually need storage space, it's not a great choice, but only you can actually say if those factors matter.

sweetie

Yeah, go for the supermarket laptop over the electrical store that sells PCs

by8auj6csd3ioq

I am not hostile there seems a bias to currys. You mentioned and someone thanks it, twice i think. Why is the extra 4 Gb of Ram not important in the currys one? I have not had an ssd. Does it need less RAM

mordeith

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

"The Currys laptop is twice as fast and boots up, and runs, probably three times as fast."

I doubt that

Terror knows more than most here on hardware but even someone with rudimentary knowledge realises the speed increase (especially in boot times) a SSD alone will bring

Gumbo

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

OK, go and buy the Tesco laptop then? Not sure why you're so hostile, your first message was to say "all the replies here seem like ads for currys" even though I was the only person to reply, so clearly for some reason you want to be convinced that the Tesco laptop is the better buy.

Why bother asking for advice? The Tesco laptop is just fine, wouldn't be my first choice, but it's not terrible.

Unless you have specific use for 8GB ram and actually need storage space, it's not a great choice, but only you can actually say if those factors matter.

Probably because he has already. Ought and opened the Tesco machine and now can’t bring it back.

Gumbo

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

I am not hostile there seems a bias to currys. You mentioned and someone thanks it, twice i think. Why is the extra 4 Gb of Ram not important in the currys one? I have not had an ssd. Does it need less RAM

What do you need the additional ram for?
What is the main use for the laptop?

by8auj6csd3ioq

"Probably because he has already. Ought and opened the Tesco machine and now can’t bring it back."

what a nonsense thing to say for. with that kind of logic i am out of here

by8auj6csd3ioq

kceire wrote: »

What do you need the additional ram for?
What is the main use for the laptop?

I dont think 4GB is enough for any modern OS. The SSD looks good if it had 8 GB.The boot up does not bother me. I will need to be able to run photoshop and maybe little NLE. I think any speed gained by the ssd over the HD will be negated by the lack of RAM and the difference will not be much. What i really wanted to know is about the AMD 9410. The 1TB and the 8GB is ok by me by I have no experience of AMD chips

Please do not make false statements that i have bought Tesco one and cannot return. I haven't

Alanstrainor

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

I dont think 4GB is enough for any modern OS. The SSD looks good if it had 8 GB.The boot up does not bother me. I will need to be able to run photoshop and maybe little NLE. I think any speed gained by the ssd over the HD will be negated by the lack of RAM and the difference will not be much. What i really wanted to know is about the AMD 9410. The 1TB and the 8GB is ok by me by I have no experience of AMD chips

Please do not make false statements that i have bought Tesco one and cannot return. I haven't

The AMD chip is pants. Look up the processor comparisons yourself. I would also buy the Currys machine. Much better overall. Better CPU, the SSD is a big plus the only downside is the lack of RAM. But this can be easily upgraded if you need extra. The CPU cannot be upgraded, so you're better buying the best you can afford.

This is one machine that offers all the spec:

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-330s-14-intel-pentium-gold-laptop-128-gb-ssd-blue-10180843-pdt.html

It is worth the extra 60 in this instance. Take from this thread what you will, we are trying to help you.

thomas 123

Right - so an SSD and a Processor are the most important parts in any Laptop or PC thats not dealing with games etc.

Take a look at this https://uk.pcmag.com/storage-devices-reviews/8061/feature/ssd-vs-hdd-whats-the-difference

The thing is the laptop in Tesco is going to be swamped while running Google Chrome. It will be slow for multitasking. If your working with photos or other large files id suggest investing in at least an Ext hard drive(or 2) with USB 3.0 that way all your files are safe and sound.

Remember an SSD is going to speed up all file actions on your laptop as the read write is much faster than a HD.

If you get any form of malware/adware and you dont know how to handle it its game over for the Tesco laptop - unless your paying someone to remove it.

While 8Gb of Ram is great, its worth nothing if the processor cant send info too and from it quickly. Its all about the harmony - this Tesco laptop is a bottle neck in a box.

serox_21

I would go with Lenovo from Tesco. Especially if used for day to day tasks(browsing, office, light work).

An ssd upgrade is around 60 pounds on amazon for 256Gb or 512Gb( on offer) . Curry's laptop most likely has msata SSD(which is more expensive to upgrade and sometimes slower) and 128Gb is nowhere enough this days.(a minimum of 256 I would recommend)

More memory is always better(especially with google chrome). 4Gb will run only windows(especially with all bloatware this laptops have installed by default ). If you need to open a multiple tabs in a broswer then you will notice slow down.

Probably curry's laptop have 1 memory slot(so upgrade means replacing existing memory).

Upgrading RAM or SSD on curry's laptop will be more expensive that upgrading hdd to ssd(which require unscrewing one screw on the back plate) on tesco laptop.

For daily tasks you won't see any difference in CPU speed. Even this Pentium CPU(2 cores 4 threads) is not that great. If you want a decent CPU look at least on an i3.

This Tesco laptop is not the best buy at this price, but definitely better than curry's recommended one.

Both are budget laptops

Alanstrainor

serox_21 wrote: »

For daily tasks you won't see any difference in CPU speed. Even this Pentium CPU(2 cores 4 threads) is not that great. If you want a decent CPU look at least on an i3.

This Tesco laptop is not the best buy at this price, but definitely better than curry's recommended one.

Both are budget laptops

This is nonsense. This processor is almost identical to an i3 7th generation. There will be no discernible difference between the two.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_pentium_4415u-838-vs-intel_core_i3_7100u-654

The amount of storage you need is entirely up to the OP. Perhaps 128GB won't be enough, but I would say for most 128GB is just fine. I run a 64GB SSD on my desktop with no issues on Windows 10 Pro, with a few choice applications installed.

I would also disagree with your statement about 4GB only being enough to run Windows. There is plenty of headroom for daily use with Chrome and other normal apps. If you go opening photoshop, games or other type applications then yes 4GB is not enough. But otherwise it is fine.

by8auj6csd3ioq

Thanks for the opinions. ido not use google chrome, i use firefox. Also i am able to cope with any malware but do not ever get anyway. I know how to protect.

thomas 123

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

Thanks for the opinions. ido not use google chrome, i use firefox. Also i am able to cope with any malware but do not ever get anyway. I know how to protect.

Good to hear.

I guess in summery we can say the laptop from Tesco is fine and not bad value but you could do a lot better performance wise with a little more cash.

by8auj6csd3ioq

thomas 123 wrote: »

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

Thanks for the opinions. ido not use google chrome, i use firefox. Also i am able to cope with any malware but do not ever get anyway. I know how to protect.

Good to hear.

I guess in summery we can say the laptop from Tesco is fine and not bad value but you could do a lot better performance wise with a little more cash.

OK I am curious why you say "If you get any form of malware/adware and you dont know how to handle it its game over for the Tesco laptop " Is SSD easier to deal with malware? You can wipe it but still need back up and you can reinstall windows on the Tesco if you have a backup

thomas 123

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

OK I am curious why you say "If you get any form of malware/adware and you dont know how to handle it its game over for the Tesco laptop " Is SSD easier to deal with malware? You can wipe it but still need back up and you can reinstall windows on the Tesco if you have a backup

No that was more in reference to the processor. If you got malware it would take up a lot of that processor. Since you can remove it its not really an issue though.

Alanstrainor

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

OK I am curious why you say "If you get any form of malware/adware and you dont know how to handle it its game over for the Tesco laptop " Is SSD easier to deal with malware? You can wipe it but still need back up and you can reinstall windows on the Tesco if you have a backup

Yeah, his statement there makes no sense. There is no difference between these machines in terms of malware. Perhaps they're commenting on the Tesco laptop being slower to begin with, which in turn would grind things to a halt with any issue? But it's a nonsensical argument tbh.

thomas 123

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Yeah, his statement there makes no sense. There is no difference between these machines in terms of malware. Perhaps they're commenting on the Tesco laptop being slower to begin with, which in turn would grind things to a halt with any issue? But it's a nonsensical argument tbh.

Yeah - Sorry I should have broke it down more, wrote during work.

by8auj6csd3ioq

thomas 123 wrote: »

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

OK I am curious why you say "If you get any form of malware/adware and you dont know how to handle it its game over for the Tesco laptop " Is SSD easier to deal with malware? You can wipe it but still need back up and you can reinstall windows on the Tesco if you have a backup

No that was more in reference to the processor. If you got malware it would take up a lot of that processor. Since you can remove it its not really an issue though.

i see what you mean. I am OK there. Never get malware and would be able to cope if i did.

thomas 123

Kylee Prehistoric Waltz wrote: »

i see what you mean. I am OK there. Never get malware and would be able to cope if i did.

Can you tell us what you do the most on the laptop so we could better advise?

hots

On a budget machine like this my order of importance is almost always Processor>SSD>RAM, you'll feel the boot speed and file recall from the SSD much more than ever maxing out your RAM (in my experience) and processor up top because it's the hardest to replace if you can't live with it. Intel option with the SSD comfortably, I'm no fan of curry's / PC world either, surely something better online at the likes of laptopsdirect or amazon or something?

mickmackmcgoo

Had a look this morning at this laptop bundle. It's clearly aimed at the back to school/college customer. Comes with free carry bag, 16gb flash drive and a year's free security. It's not bad for 389

hots

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/nav/pt/laptops/ssdgroup/128gb-and-above/procgrp/core-i3-and-better/mc/48361?sortOrder=1

Can get a refurb i5 (older model) with 8GB of RAM for same price, a refurb of an i3 and 4gb for cheaper or a new i3 + 4GB for about the same price. That's what I'd go for at that budget. Would ignore the security in the bundle... carrybag & stick are probably 20quids worth?

Alanstrainor

hots wrote: »

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/nav/pt/laptops/ssdgroup/128gb-and-above/procgrp/core-i3-and-better/mc/48361?sortOrder=1

Can get a refurb i5 (older model) with 8GB of RAM for same price, a refurb of an i3 and 4gb for cheaper or a new i3 + 4GB for about the same price. That's what I'd go for at that budget. Would ignore the security in the bundle... carrybag & stick are probably 20quids worth?

Are you talking about the HP refurb?

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/refurbished-hp-pro-book-640-g1-core-i5-4200u-2.5ghz-4gb-128gb-14-inch-windo-t1-hp640i58gb128gbw10p/version.asp

Yeah that's a 4 year old machine, with 4 year old specs. It's an ex-corporate machine, so essentially second hand. Not comparable to the new machines posted on thread....

hots

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Are you talking about the HP refurb?

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/refurbished-hp-pro-book-640-g1-core-i5-4200u-2.5ghz-4gb-128gb-14-inch-windo-t1-hp640i58gb128gbw10p/version.asp

Yeah that's a 4 year old machine, with 4 year old specs. It's an ex-corporate machine, so essentially second hand. Not comparable to the new machines posted on thread....

I was looking at an A1 refurb I think? If the T1 is the only one that matches, ignore, wouldn't go for that at all.

ssd and faster processor vs spinning hard drive and crappy amd laptop processor will easily boot up windows 10 to the point where you can login twice as fast, if not 3 times.

saying that, most laptops would be operated out of sleep mode this days so you won't need to boot up most of the time but it will still be a much better laptop.

amd laptop cpus can be generalised as really crap (expect for new ones coming over the next year which are due to be a vast improvement but the old a6, a9 etc are slow and battery hogs).