Suggestions for apartment dogs

Idonotknow

Hey, planning on adopting a dog. I really don’t want to buy. But also I live in an apartment and from leaving for work until returning home is about 9.5 hours. Are there any dogs suited to this environment? I really don’t want to put a dog into a position that wouldn’t be good for them. Was also thinking of adopting two so that they would have each other during the day

alroley

Leaving any dog for 9.5 hours every day is not okay in my opinion.

Idonotknow

alroley wrote: »

Leaving any dog for 9.5 hours every day is not okay in my opinion.

Heartbreaking but it’s good to know. Would hate myself if I was doing something that wasn’t good for the dog

Cows Go µ

You are probably better going over and asking in the animal and pets forum.

Most dogs will be happy to be left indoors while you are at work so long as they have been raised that way and you bring them for walks every day. I have shelties which are high energy and they cope fine - in fact they are exhausted when I'm off because they are so used to getting sleep during the day. But they get good walks/runs every day when I get home. I can't imagine having them in an apartment though because always letting them out for toilet breaks and I would think it would be awkward in an apartment.

From what I have heard over in the animals and pets forum, grey hounds work well as they are quite a laid back breed.

Idonotknow

Cows Go µ wrote: »

You are probably better going over and asking in the animal and pets forum.

Most dogs will be happy to be left indoors while you are at work so long as they have been raised that way and you bring them for walks every day. I have shelties which are high energy and they cope fine - in fact they are exhausted when I'm off because they are so used to getting sleep during the day. But they get good walks/runs every day when I get home. I can't imagine having them in an apartment though because always letting them out for toilet breaks and I would think it would be awkward in an apartment.

From what I have heard over in the animals and pets forum, grey hounds work well as they are quite a laid back breed.

Thanks! I could not find an animals and pets forum, I must being going daft, I will take a look there!

Caranica

None.

1. It's not fair to a dog to leave it alone during the day, particularly a rescue dog that might have issues

2. Most management companies have rules to ban dogs

3. In an apartment building a dog barking will disturb so many people. They are not a good match for high density living.

the_syco

People who adopt a dog who live in apartments often hand the dog back because of destructive issues that they don't know the reason of.

The reason is always boredom.

pwurple

I don't think you would pass the adoption tests in this situation tbh. We recently rehomed and part of the process was them checking how long the dog would be left alone.

The_Conductor

Apartments do not allow pets- particularly dogs- without exception.
Check your lease- what you're proposing is a non-starter.

beertons

Try it out with a tamogachi.

Xterminator

Hi Op

my friend was in the same situation as you. he adopted 2 older (mature) dogs, and they keep each other company when he was at work . a quick walk in the morning before work, and they are great company for the evenings/weekends.

if you take a look at the conditions of these older dogs they have dont get adopted much, and the conditions they are kept in in the pound, i challenge anyone here to tell me they are not better off in a loving home, with your attention and love evenings and weekends.

given your apartment situation you had better check the lease/T&C's and make sure you are allowed before hand.

Samuel T. Cogley

The best apartment dog is a cat.

ekevosu

Based on your other post today about troubles with your flatmate I don't think its a good time to get a dog. Very hard to rent with dogs if you are not going to be buying and your current situation changes. Its a lot of responsibility owning a dog and can tie you down a lot so you have to be aware of that. You would have to get clearance from your landlord and the management company etc. as well.

Marcusm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Apartments do not allow pets- particularly dogs- without exception.
Check your lease- what you're proposing is a non-starter.

“Without exception” is clearly wrong. It is not common but there are plenty of apartments which allow pets on a case by case basis. A usual lease covenant is that”No bird, dog, cat may be kept without [OMC] permission”. Inclusion of such a clause raises a reasonable expectation that a pet which does not cause nuisance should be permitted. Personally I am it’s dan of dogs being kept in an apartment but I had a next door neighbour who kept a golden retriever (11 years old) with permission. That got had only ever lived in an apartment environment (previously in Canada and the UK) and never caused a problem.

Other neighbours have had small happy dogs.

OP: I think it would be unrealistic to expect that a rescue dog would be suitable for an apartment. There are dog day care facilities if your budget stretches to that.

Mrs OBumble

Marcusm wrote: »

“ There are dog day care facilities if your budget stretches to that.

These are unregulated and often involve your dog spending the day locked in a warehouse with lots of other dogs and little natural light.

I'm no animal lover but even i was shocked to discover how miserable the dogs sound (I work near one and walk past at lunchtime).

bluelamp

Not to be too harsh OP, but it would 100% selfish of you to get a dog for an apartment and leave it alone all day. It's not fair to the dog, and it's not fair on your neighbours.

The dog will be bored stupid, will start to chew things, will bark, have behavioural issues etc.

I'm sure people will come here saying it's fine, they do it and their dog is perfect etc - but they are just trying to convince themselves it's ok.

Idonotknow

bluelamp wrote: »

Not to be too harsh OP, but it would 100% selfish of you to get a dog for an apartment and leave it alone all day. It's not fair to the dog, and it's not fair on your neighbours.

The dog will be bored stupid, will start to chew things, will bark, have behavioural issues etc.

I'm sure people will come here saying it's fine, they do it and their dog is perfect etc - but they are just trying to convince themselves it's ok.

Absolutely not being harsh, the opinions are what I came here for it’s really good to hear the views on it. Either way I have decided to hold off and will revisit the whole thing once I at least have a house with a secure back garden. Last thing I would ever want is to be unfair to a dog

Edgware

The_Conductor wrote: »

Apartments do not allow pets- particularly dogs- without exception.
Check your lease- what you're proposing is a non-starter.

Incorrect.
In many apartments pets including dogs are allowed as long as they do not cause a disturbance to residents.

Achasanai

pwurple wrote: »

I don't think you would pass the adoption tests in this situation tbh. We recently rehomed and part of the process was them checking how long the dog would be left alone.

What was the general advice on this? I wouldn't get a dog if I was in an apartment, but would love to have one or two if I had a house. It would still mean the dogs being alone for 9 hours or so a day, I would imagine, but they would have the use of a garden.

zoe 3619

Achasanai wrote: »

What was the general advice on this? I wouldn't get a dog if I was in an apartment, but would love to have one or two if I had a house. It would still mean the dogs being alone for 9 hours or so a day, I would imagine, but they would have the use of a garden.

When you say 'have use of the garden' would they have access to indoors as well?
I have a greyhound which would be happy dozing for 9 hours on the sofa,but she would need a toilet break during that time.
I wouldn't feel right taking a dog on and leaving it outside for that long.

Idonotknow

zoe 3619 wrote: »

When you say 'have use of the garden' would they have access to indoors as well?
I have a greyhound which would be happy dozing for 9 hours on the sofa,but she would need a toilet break during that time.
I wouldn't feel right taking a dog on and leaving it outside for that long.

Oh so for my dream future owning a home, would 9 hours be ok if the dog could go outside and come inside as it wants? Like a doggie door? Ideally I would have 2 so they would also have company.

Eric Cartman

Idonotknow wrote: »

Absolutely not being harsh, the opinions are what I came here for it’s really good to hear the views on it. Either way I have decided to hold off and will revisit the whole thing once I at least have a house with a secure back garden. Last thing I would ever want is to be unfair to a dog

until you own a home you can live in forever I wouldn't recommend getting a dog, this forum is full of threads about people being kicked out of houses, refused by landlords etc... for having a dog while renting, its extra stress nobody needs.

zoe 3619

Idonotknow wrote: »

Oh so for my dream future owning a home, would 9 hours be ok if the dog could go outside and come inside as it wants? Like a doggie door? Ideally I would have 2 so they would also have company.

In theory I would think so but you'd want middle age lazy dogs rather than puppies.

Marcusm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

These are unregulated and often involve your dog spending the day locked in a warehouse with lots of other dogs and little natural light.

I'm no animal lover but even i was shocked to discover how miserable the dogs sound (I work near one and walk past at lunchtime).

Then you should report them; there are equally substandard childcare facilities. A decent owner would check the facility prior to using it.

fungie

We've a mini dachshund in the apartment but don't leave him alone for along time usually. We use a mix of family and doggy day care. It can be done but is a lot of work.

terrydel

We've two dogs, one very old and one young and energetic.
My Dad goes to them every day pretty much to walk them and let them out to pee etc while we are working, without that I dont think it would be fair on the younger one anyway, the older guy can no longer get around without help so is happy to sleep all day.
I'd never keep a dog in an apartment.
We've a nice garden and I'll play with the younger dog when I get home, then take her for a good walk after dinner.
If you cant give them the time and attention they need, dont have them.
I should add that I live in a rural area with lakes and woods a 2 minute walk away so its easy for me to bring our younger dog out for proper stimulating exercise.

gmisk

Idonotknow wrote: »

Oh so for my dream future owning a home, would 9 hours be ok if the dog could go outside and come inside as it wants? Like a doggie door? Ideally I would have 2 so they would also have company.

I personally think 9 hours is a really horrendously long time to leave a dog on its own, especially if it is a pup. From a security point of view I am not sure a doggie door would be a go for me. We have a camera in house to keep an eye, all he does is sleep because we walk the legs of him (rain or shine).



I have a dog in a small house with a front and back garden, he is now 1 and a 1/2, he really isnt a lot of bother but you have to plan your life around their needs. The longest our fella is left is 6 hours, I work flexi and my partner does shift work so it works out well. I personally wouldnt ever consider getting a dog if I lived in apartment.

LolaJJ

Most animal rescues won't give out dogs to people unless they can prove they will not leave them for more than 4 hours.

It's emotionally damaging for most mammals to be socially isolated for long periods of time. Also, in general apartments are not suitable for dogs, they need their own green area...

Please don't get a dog OP.

Idonotknow

LolaJJ wrote: »

Most animal rescues won't give out dogs to people unless they can prove they will not leave them for more than 4 hours.

It's emotionally damaging for most mammals to be socially isolated for long periods of time. Also, in general apartments are not suitable for dogs, they need their own green area...

Please don't get a dog OP.

According to the ispca they are ok with more than 4 hours if there are 2 dogs.

henryforde80

OP I think a lot of dogs are left at home for long periods of time with both parents working and children in school etc. Dogs just need to get into a routine.

I would definitely look at two small dogs for the apartment to keep each other company. It really depends on the nature of the dog if they cant be left at home for long periods on their own.

Also you have to realize the weekends and how much time they take up.

I have two Bichons and there 100 per cent fine with the hour they have with me in the morning and the six hours when I'm home in the evening after work and been with them most of the time the weekends.

Only thing is as other people mentioned what if you have to move and the new place no longer accept pets.

Mrs OBumble

Marcusm wrote: »

Then you should report them; there are equally substandard childcare facilities. A decent owner would check the facility prior to using it.

Who to?

Childcare centres are regulated. Doggie daycares aren't.

karenalot

I’m involved in rescue and we have zero issues rehoming pets to apartment owners. As long as dogs are walked regularly and stimulated it’s perfectly ok. It’s not a must for a garden and plenty of apt owners with pets all over Europe manage absolutely fine.

However as others have pointed out we are wary of renters of apts, while your current landlord might have no issues with pets it’s unfortunately nearly always a given that the next landlord will say no. Most rescues in Ireland are inundated with renters rehoming their pets because of this and some rescues have had to stop rehoming to people unless you own the property.

Idonotknow

karenalot wrote: »

I’m involved in rescue and we have zero issues rehoming pets to apartment owners. As long as dogs are walked regularly and stimulated it’s perfectly ok. It’s not a must for a garden and plenty of apt owners with pets all over Europe manage absolutely fine.

However as others have pointed out we are wary of renters of apts, while your current landlord might have no issues with pets it’s unfortunately nearly always a given that the next landlord will say no. Most rescues in Ireland are inundated with renters rehoming their pets because of this and some rescues have had to stop rehoming to people unless you own the property.

Just really want to say thanks for your input! It’s great to hear, and we have decided to wait until we own a house. We really want to provide the best possible home for dogs. I would love to be a stay at home dog mum but we both have to work would definitely want to get 2 so that they at a minimum have each other for company.

Any additional tips on how to get adoption ready are appreciated.

gmisk

Idonotknow wrote: »

Just really want to say thanks for your input! It’s great to hear, and we have decided to wait until we own a house. We really want to provide the best possible home for dogs. I would love to be a stay at home dog mum but we both have to work would definitely want to get 2 so that they at a minimum have each other for company.

Any additional tips on how to get adoption ready are appreciated.

Would you consider using something like borrowmydoggy?
That way you get a feel for owning a dog, without the stress!

Graces7

Eric Cartman wrote: »

until you own a home you can live in forever I wouldn't recommend getting a dog, this forum is full of threads about people being kicked out of houses, refused by landlords etc... for having a dog while renting, its extra stress nobody needs.

Well, I have a dog and 3 cats and have moved I think 8 times because of bad rental s etc and never a problem on any score.. The alternative, being without critters, does not bear thinking about.

The_Conductor

Graces7 wrote: »

Well, I have a dog and 3 cats and have moved I think 8 times because of bad rental s etc and never a problem on any score.. The alternative, being without critters, does not bear thinking about.

With all due respect- the OP lives in an apartment- and is specifically asking about his/her current accommodation- and the fact that they are away from home for 9.5 hours every day at work- and looking for information on whether this is a good situation for a dog to be in..........

I seriously doubt you're in an apartment and are leaving your critters home alone during the day- as the OP is querying..........

Mantis Toboggan

OP I don't think it's a good idea getting a dog then leaving it alone bored all day. Maybe wait until you're unemployed or retired before getting a dog.

terrydel

Graces7 wrote: »

Well, I have a dog and 3 cats and have moved I think 8 times because of bad rental s etc and never a problem on any score.. The alternative, being without critters, does not bear thinking about.

I'd honestly rather live under a bridge than give up my two dogs to rent a place.
Its hard to find a place that will accept them yes, Ireland is hugely anti dog in that regard, but if the choice is a ****tier house and my dogs over a nice place without them, thats no choice at all.

Graces7

The_Conductor wrote: »

With all due respect- the OP lives in an apartment- and is specifically asking about his/her current accommodation- and the fact that they are away from home for 9.5 hours every day at work- and looking for information on whether this is a good situation for a dog to be in..........

I seriously doubt you're in an apartment and are leaving your critters home alone during the day- as the OP is querying..........

??? Please see the actual post I was replying to?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
until you own a home you can live in forever I wouldn't recommend getting a dog, this forum is full of threads about people being kicked out of houses, refused by landlords etc... for having a dog while renting, its extra stress nobody needs.

Well, I have a dog and 3 cats and have moved I think 8 times because of bad rental s etc and never a problem on any score.. The alternative, being without critters, does not bear thinking about."


I was not replying to the OP.

The_Conductor

Graces7 wrote: »

??? Please see the actual post I was replying to?
I was not replying to the OP.

The thread was started by the OP.
If you want to debate the relative merits of keeping cats and dogs- other than as a relevant response to the OP- please take it to a more appropriate venue. If you want to hold a discussion with another poster- independent of the thread- please take it elsewhere. Thankyou.

The_Conductor

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