Certified copy of MOT?

helpmeplease

Hi

Does anyone know how I can get my copy of the MOT certified to be a true copy in order to exchange it for an NCT cert?

Is it enough to get the guards to stamp it?

I cannot find any more information other than what is outlined in the FAQs on the NCT website

https://www.ncts.ie/faq/

16. My vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, do I need an NCT Certificate

If you import a second hand vehicle from another EU Member State and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate.

In order to obtain an EU recognition certificate for a private vehicle you must complete an Mutual Recognition Application Form and return the completed application form and required fee of €15.50 (this fee is being waived until further notice) with the original or a certified true copy of the out of state roadworthiness certificate (if the certificate is not in English, please ensure you provide a translation of the certificate in the English language) to the following postal address: Certificate Administrator, Applus Car Testing Service Ltd, Citywest Business Campus, Lakedrive 3026, Naas Road, Dublin 24, D24 RC8V.

The Irish issued EU recognition roadworthiness certificate will be issued by post to the current registered owner of the vehicle.

Thank you

bazz26

I'd imagine they want the original MOT cert like what the NCT give you when you pass the NCT. If the seller didn't give you the cert when buying the car then you might be in trouble as the link below says you have to go to a MOT centre in the UK for a replacement cert. Even if you could go to a MOT centre up in the North for a replacement they will require the car's V5c log book which the VRT centre probably sent back the DVLA when you changed over to Irish plates.

https://www.gov.uk/replacing-lost-damaged-mot-certificate

mgbgt1978

Isn't it a different system up north Bazz ?
You have to book the MOT through the DVA(which is different again from the DVLA) rather than any Independent Test Centre.
I don't think an NI MOT Centre could provide a copy of a mainland UK Cert.

edit;OP, when you say 'my copy of the MOT' do you mean it's marked as a copy of the original cert, or do you just mean your MOT cert ????
If it's an original UK cert then you don't have a problem.

Atlantic Dawn

Pretty sheite system, you would think each country would at a basic level have either a website you can enter the original reg from and they can see it's valid or at a more advanced level have a central register for the entire EU that all countries have access to.

mikeecho

A certified copy is a photocopy of the original, with a handwritten declaration, that is witnessed and signed by a Garda/commissioner of oaths/peace commissioner etc.

The declaration should be something like:

I hereby declare that this is s true copy of an original document that I have presented to XXXX on this date the xx/xx/xx

Signed: me
Witnessed : Garda, PC, ,CoO etc


The declaration is written on the photocopy itself.

almostover

mikeecho wrote: »

A certified copy is a photocopy of the original,  with a handwritten declaration, that is witnessed and signed by a Garda/commissioner of oaths/peace commissioner etc.

The declaration should be something like:

I hereby declare that this is s true copy of an original document that I have presented to XXXX on this date the xx/xx/xx

Signed: me
Witnessed : Garda, PC, ,CoO etc


The declaration is written on the photocopy itself.

Very interested in this thread myself as I have just imported a car from the UK. Did the VRT last Friday and asked at the NCT centre about the MOT to NCT exchange. They had little knowledge of the process. They printed me the application form to fill out that accompanies the MOT cert, told me to fill it out, attach the MOT cert and the postal order/bank draft and send it to the address on the application form. I posted it away this Monday with the MOT certificate that the garage that I bought the car from gave me. The garage did the MOT themselves so presuming this is the official document. As for getting a Garda/commissioner of oaths to sign the MOT cert - I don't this this is applicable considering the MOT is issued by another jurisdiction. I'll update you with what happens with my application and hopefully that will help. I was a little frustrated with the process so far considering I just couldn't exchange it at the NCT centre on the spot when doing the VRT which would have been the most logical thing. Also there are charges for a postal order/bank draft and the cost of the stamp to post the MOT cert. Can't for the life of me see why this cannot be done when you pay for the VRT and just pay the €15.50 admin fee with a debit/credit card on the spot. But this is Ireland where the most logical thing to do is never done....... It would make you think that the NCT authority are purposely trying to make it difficult to exchange an MOT for an NCT as this new legislation is doing them out of revenue.....

Del2005

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Pretty sheite system, you would think each country would at a basic level have either a website you can enter the original reg from and they can see it's valid or at a more advanced level have a central register for the entire EU that all countries have access to.

Since all roadworthiness tests are for the instant in time they are tested it's a stupid system that allows them to be transferred when exporting, especially one with as many issues as the British MOT.

If you want a vehicle on a countries roads the least it should do is pass that countries roadworthiness test before it's legal.

CJhaughey

almostover wrote: »

Very interested in this thread myself as I have just imported a car from the UK. Did the VRT last Friday and asked at the NCT centre about the MOT to NCT exchange. They had little knowledge of the process. They printed me the application form to fill out that accompanies the MOT cert, told me to fill it out, attach the MOT cert and the postal order/bank draft and send it to the address on the application form. I posted it away this Monday with the MOT certificate that the garage that I bought the car from gave me. The garage did the MOT themselves so presuming this is the official document. As for getting a Garda/commissioner of oaths to sign the MOT cert - I don't this this is applicable considering the MOT is issued by another jurisdiction. I'll update you with what happens with my application and hopefully that will help. I was a little frustrated with the process so far considering I just couldn't exchange it at the NCT centre on the spot when doing the VRT which would have been the most logical thing. Also there are charges for a postal order/bank draft and the cost of the stamp to post the MOT cert. Can't for the life of me see why this cannot be done when you pay for the VRT and just pay the €15.50 admin fee with a debit/credit card on the spot. But this is Ireland where the most logical thing to do is never done....... It would make you think that the NCT authority are purposely trying to make it difficult to exchange an MOT for an NCT as this new legislation is doing them out of revenue.....

The fee is supposed to be waived for the time being.
1. Recognition of unexpired term of Roadworthiness Certificates issued by other Member States

If you import a second hand vehicle from another EU Member State and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate.

In order to obtain an EU recognition certificate for a private vehicle you must complete an application form (available on the NCTS website) and return the completed application form and required fee of €15.50 (this fee is being waived until further notice) with the original or a certified true copy of the out of state roadworthiness certificate (if the certificate is not in English, please ensure you provide a translation of the certificate in the English language) to the following postal address: Certificate Administrator, Applus Car Testing Service Ltd, Citywest Business Campus, Lakedrive 3026, Naas Road, Dublin 24, D24 RC8V.

The Irish issued EU recognition roadworthiness certificate will be issued by post to the current registered owner of the vehicle.

my3cents

CJhaughey wrote: »

The fee is supposed to be waived for the time being.
1. Recognition of unexpired term of Roadworthiness Certificates issued by other Member States

If you import a second hand vehicle from another EU Member State and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate.

In order to obtain an EU recognition certificate for a private vehicle you must complete an application form (available on the NCTS website) and return the completed application form and required fee of €15.50 (this fee is being waived until further notice) with the original or a certified true copy of the out of state roadworthiness certificate (if the certificate is not in English, please ensure you provide a translation of the certificate in the English language) to the following postal address: Certificate Administrator, Applus Car Testing Service Ltd, Citywest Business Campus, Lakedrive 3026, Naas Road, Dublin 24, D24 RC8V.

The Irish issued EU recognition roadworthiness certificate will be issued by post to the current registered owner of the vehicle.

But how does that match up the timings of the dates? We all know how the NCT dates work but for the MOT you can MOT any time and get the full 12 months.

CJhaughey

my3cents wrote: »

But how does that match up the timings of the dates? We all know how the NCT dates work but for the MOT you can MOT any time and get the full 12 months.

You can also NCT anytime as well but most people use the cars anniversary as the date.
The inference is clear from their wording: "you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised"
So the date of expiry of the MOT or HU or whatever test is relevant then it falls due.

helpmeplease

Thanks for the replies so far.

As it stands, I don't have the original MOT. I have a copy of the MOT which I paid £10 for.

I bought it from this website: http://www.lostmotcertificate.co.uk/ (it seems to be operated by an MOT testing company)

It is a full printout of the MOT results except at the the bottom of the page it says that it is a duplicate of the original MOT.

I was not given the original MOT at all.

When I called up Applus about how to get it certified as a true copy she told me to ring the DVLA

If I get a guard to stamp this document is it likely they will accept it and exchange it for an NCT?

helpmeplease

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

edit;OP, when you say 'my copy of the MOT' do you mean it's marked as a copy of the original cert, or do you just mean your MOT cert ????
If it's an original UK cert then you don't have a problem.

It's not the original, it's a duplicate as the original was never sent to me.

mgbgt1978

You could just act dumb and send it off with your application....and if it's not accepted then contact the crowd you purchased from and see what they have to say.
Costs you nothing to try.

Del2005

helpmeplease wrote: »

Thanks for the replies so far.

As it stands, I don't have the original MOT. I have a copy of the MOT which I paid £10 for.

I bought it from this website: http://www.lostmotcertificate.co.uk/ (it seems to be operated by an MOT testing company)

It is a full printout of the MOT results except at the the bottom of the page it says that it is a duplicate of the original MOT.

I was not given the original MOT at all.

When I called up Applus about how to get it certified as a true copy she told me to ring the DVLA

If I get a guard to stamp this document is it likely they will accept it and exchange it for an NCT?

All you will have then is a stamped duplicate of the MOT. You need to contact someone to send you a replacement MOT certificate, finding the correct person in the correct company is the problem.

For the hassle involved would it not be easier to just NCT it?

almostover

CJhaughey wrote: »

The fee is supposed to be waived for the time being.
1. Recognition of unexpired term of Roadworthiness Certificates issued by other Member States

If you import a second hand vehicle from another EU Member State and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate.

In order to obtain an EU recognition certificate for a private vehicle you must complete an application form (available on the NCTS website) and return the completed application form and required fee of €15.50 (this fee is being waived until further notice) with the original or a certified true copy of the out of state roadworthiness certificate (if the certificate is not in English, please ensure you provide a translation of the certificate in the English language) to the following postal address: Certificate Administrator, Applus Car Testing Service Ltd, Citywest Business Campus, Lakedrive 3026, Naas Road, Dublin 24, D24 RC8V.

The Irish issued EU recognition roadworthiness certificate will be issued by post to the current registered owner of the vehicle.

Well nuts! The form I was given at the NCT centre said nothing about waiving the fee! I have attached it as reference. Wonder will they just accept my generous donation or will the return my postal order?

Kat78

I did this recently, the duplicate cert you got from the lostmotcertificate website is fine. If you send that along with the application form that was linked in the post above this, they will issue you with the NCT cert. No fee (as it's waived for now) or garda stamp required.

almostover

almostover wrote: »

CJhaughey wrote: »

The fee is supposed to be waived for the time being.
1. Recognition of unexpired term of Roadworthiness Certificates issued by other Member States

If you import a second hand vehicle from another EU Member State and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate.

In order to obtain an EU recognition certificate for a private vehicle you must complete an application form (available on the NCTS website) and return the completed application form and required fee of €15.50 (this fee is being waived until further notice) with the original or a certified true copy of the out of state roadworthiness certificate (if the certificate is not in English, please ensure you provide a translation of the certificate in the English language) to the following postal address: Certificate Administrator, Applus Car Testing Service Ltd, Citywest Business Campus, Lakedrive 3026, Naas Road, Dublin 24, D24 RC8V.

The Irish issued EU recognition roadworthiness certificate will be issued by post to the current registered owner of the vehicle.

Well nuts! The form I was given at the NCT centre said nothing about waiving the fee! I have attached it as reference. Wonder will they just accept my generous donation or will the return my postal order?

As an information point, Applus will accept the duplicate MOT certificate. They accepted mine last week. Also, if you send the fee via postal order like I did, they will return it and it can be refunded. Rant over......

mgn

Why can't a person just go into the NCT center with the MOT cert after paying the VRT and get a NCT cert for it.That would make it to easy i suppose.

CJhaughey

mgn wrote: »

Why can't a person just go into the NCT center with the MOT cert after paying the VRT and get a NCT cert for it.That would make it to easy i suppose.

Because its not an NCT, its a recognition of another EU state's test.
All it means is that you get whatever time you have left on that cert before having to do an NCT test to produce an NCT cert.

mgn

CJhaughey wrote: »

Because its not an NCT, its a recognition of another EU state's test.
All it means is that you get whatever time you have left on that cert before having to do an NCT test to produce an NCT cert.

I know what it is.What is the difference with getting it exchanged at an NCT center and posting it to Applus test center. It's the same cert your going to get.
Would make more sense to me.

mgbgt1978

Because they have a Crack Squad of professional, experienced Inspectors who go over every detail of the foreign "MOT" Cert in a specialised Clean-Room and can detect a bogus one immediately.....


......these would be the same gob****es that have my 2013 Citroen C5 Estate now down on the VLC as a HatchBack, despite looking at the bloody thing and the fact it was down as an Estate on the UK V5.
When I questioned it (spotted it on the sheet I was given when I cleared the Car) I was told "Don't worry, just stick a note in with this sheet when you 1st Tax it. They will sort it out in Shannon". Guess what ?????

mgn

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Because they have a Crack Squad of professional, experienced Inspectors who go over every detail of the foreign "MOT" Cert in a specialised Clean-Room and can detect a bogus one immediately.....


......these would be the same gob****es that have my 2013 Citroen C5 Estate now down on the VLC as a HatchBack, despite looking at the bloody thing and the fact it was down as an Estate on the UK V5.
When I questioned it (spotted it on the sheet I was given when I cleared the Car) I was told "Don't worry, just stick a note in with this sheet when you 1st Tax it. They will sort it out in Shannon". Guess what ?????

What did you pay the VRT on,hatchback or estate.

mgbgt1978

It was €23 dearer on the day than the VRT Calculator. Not enough to have a row about, but obviously (afterwards) was the difference in the OMSP between Estate and Hatch.
Basically the Guy who did the paperwork weaseled out of it by telling me that once he had printed off the VRT Sheet it was out of his control and he couldn't make any changes.....despite the fact that the first time I saw the sheet was after he had printed it.


Got it sorted out a few weeks later by a friend-of-a-friend in Shannon;).