Recommendations for brand new appliances

detoxkid

Hi there. We are buying a new house and looking for recommendations on:
-integrated fridge freezer
-mirowave
-top quality single oven with grill
-integrated dishwasher
-washing machine
-dryer

Any help would be really appreciated. We have the option of going with normende at trade price but I see from older threads that they are to be avoided

kuang1

Don't rule out Nordmende. Never had a problem with my fridge and will be getting another for my new build!

Dublinguy2018

How long have you had it for?

drunkmonkey

Siemens

antoinolachtnai

Nordmende is not a manufacturer of fridges or anything else. It is a brand owned by a distributor in Ireland. You may get a perfectly excellent fridge from them. But you are not buying into the global nordmende name.

coylemj

antoinolachtnai wrote: »

But you are not buying into the global nordmende name.

The 'global nordmende name' no longer exists. It has gone the way of Grundig, Bush, Blomberg and so on - brand names which were purchased by speculators from administrators and liquidators. Bush as a brand is now owned by Argos

In all cases, what you're buying is an appliance made in Asia with a badge stuck on to it to make you think that it was manufactured by a trusted brand in Europe.

Mike Ashley (Sports Direct) does exactly the same thing with sports brands - while he does sell independent brands like Nike, Under Armour etc., he also crams his shelves with 'legacy' brands for which he owns at least the UK rights ..... Slazenger, Puma etc. Meaning that he can get the gear manufactured in sweatshops in China and slap those brand names on them.

Alun

What coylemj said. The "About Us" guff on their website is completely misleading as it suggests there is actually a link to the original firm and goes on about their "German engineering heritage".

http://www.nordmende.ie/about

What makes it worse is that Nordmende never made white goods even when they were in existence, they made TV and audio equipment.

coylemj

Alun wrote: »

The "About Us" guff on their website is completely misleading as it suggests there is actually a link to the original firm and goes on about their "German engineering heritage".

+1 Blomberg (now owned by Beko) is at as well.....

Established in 1883 in Germany, Blomberg has more than 130 years of delivering quality and innovation. With a focus on intelligent solutions, energy efficiency, and the highest quality materials, we create home appliances with cutting-edge performance that function in perfect harmony with you.

Grundig .....

Grundig Intermedia GmbH’s roots lie in the traditional German company, Grundig, which was founded in 1945 and achieved world fame with its radios and televisions. In 2007 Grundig Intermedia GmbH was acquired by Arçelik, the white goods manufacturer of a leading Fortune 200 conglomerate, Koç Holding.

Arcelik is the parent company of Beko.

antoinolachtnai

coylemj wrote: »

+1 Blomberg (now owned by Beko) is at as well.....

Established in 1883 in Germany, Blomberg has more than 130 years of delivering quality and innovation. With a focus on intelligent solutions, energy efficiency, and the highest quality materials, we create home appliances with cutting-edge performance that function in perfect harmony with you.

Grundig .....

Grundig Intermedia GmbH’s roots lie in the traditional German company, Grundig, which was founded in 1945 and achieved world fame with its radios and televisions. In 2007 Grundig Intermedia GmbH was acquired by Arçelik, the white goods manufacturer of a leading Fortune 200 conglomerate, Koç Holding.

Arcelik is the parent company of Beko.

Well it’s a better name than Arcelik anyway.

NIMAN

A lot of the famous brands like Indesit, Hoover, Candy etc are now just built in China like everything else. They are almost generic at this stage.

I have owned a few Beko appliances over the years and never had any bother. Think they are made in Turkey iirc. Not to say a Beko you buy will be reliable though.

I think you can still buy quality like Bosch, Miele etc but you will pay a premium for top brands.

Newer brands in the kitchen appliances market, like LG or Samsung, are also well reviewed.

antoinolachtnai

I bought a mid-range Bosch dishwasher about a year ago. The innards look suspiciously like my mother's high-end Siemens she bought a few years ago. (The controls are a little less sophisticated but I notice things like the cycle lengths being almost exactly the same.) Siemens and Bosch are of course linked up.

The newer mid-range machine was built in Spain, whereas the Siemens was built in Germany.

The moral of this story, I think, is that it is possible to build decent stuff in many countries, not just Germany, that just because you get a German brand, it does not mean you get a German-built machine, and that a lot of the pricing is driven by 'positioning' rather than major differences in the products.

I too have had good results with beko machinery. In one way, it seems like the most 'honest' of the brands. (It is also worth noting that many of the people who actually built the dishwashers back in the glory days of the German brands were probably Turkish.)

I agree that this all makes it difficult for the consumer to make a decision.

whippet

I am planning a full kitchen demolition and rebuild and when I was looking at appliances I have decided on Siemens.

I have had some siemens kit down through the years and found it bullet proof .. my mam has a siemens dishwasher about 20 odd years at this stage.

Their IQ700 range is quality.

I ruled out Miele as my inlaws have gotten to know the service team very well over the last few years after kitting out their place in all Miele gear - constantly breaking down.

There is a Siemen's demonstration centre in Ballymount, Dublin 12 - it has Bosch, Siemens and Neff I think - they don't sell from there - it's just a showroom and has everything in it. You need to make a booking but I found it invaluable when trying to make up my mind