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M50 toll dodging

  • 19-08-2018 9:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭


    Coming up to the toll earlier I had a 3 series right on my bumper, looked like he was trying to dodge the cameras. I thought they countered that by reading the rear plate too, or did they?

    In any case, I floored it just before the gantry so his plate was read, bit weird.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    My understanding is they have cameras positioned to read both the front and rear number plates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    bazz26 wrote: »
    My understanding is they have cameras positioned to read both the front and rear number plates.

    Yes you’re correct. They changed it several years ago as the practice the OP experienced was regularly occurring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I still find morons trying it on the other tolls. Or going slow in front so you close the gap and the barrier opens for them. I now go slow through so I've plenty of reaction time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    How can you tell if he was trying to dodge the toll or if he was just the average BMW driver? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I still find morons trying it on the other tolls. Or going slow in front so you close the gap and the barrier opens for them. I now go slow through so I've plenty of reaction time.

    Yep majorly at watergrasshill. It's a bit slow anyway. Had a guy jump in in front of me one morning and crawl along. Caught me completely and shot through on my tag.

    Won't fall for that again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Is there a way to report these dicks? Had one tailgate me through a toll booth a few days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Yep majorly at watergrasshill. It's a bit slow anyway. Had a guy jump in in front of me one morning and crawl along. Caught me completely and shot through on my tag.

    Won't fall for that again

    You don't get charged for it as the computers pick up that you've gone through twice at the same time.

    It's dangerous as fook when the cut you up at the last second to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    tuxy wrote: »
    How can you tell if he was trying to dodge the toll or if he was just the average BMW driver? ;)

    Rarely ever a BMW driver. Nearly always a VW or Audi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭JimmyAlfonso


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    You don't get charged for it as the computers pick up that you've gone through twice at the same time.

    It's dangerous as fook when the cut you up at the last second to do it.

    That barrier is a pain though, if you exceed 50kph it drops and you have to swing by the booth. Might explain the extreme slowing up of driver in front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    tuxy wrote: »
    How can you tell if he was trying to dodge the toll or if he was just the average BMW driver? ;)

    I had a better BMW than him :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arleitiss


    Was this M1 Fast Lane?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    arleitiss wrote: »
    Was this M1 Fast Lane?
    M50 BMW lane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I've had a few chancing the old trick of trying to crawl ahead of you in the express lane. It's brilliant when you can **** it up for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I still find morons trying it on the other tolls. Or going slow in front so you close the gap and the barrier opens for them. I now go slow through so I've plenty of reaction time.

    The barrier in the M1 came down and hit the top of your car one morning when a van did just that.

    Frightened the **** out of me, now I always slow down until I see that the car in front has been tagged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭ExoPolitic


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Rarely ever a BMW driver. Nearly always a VW or Audi

    All the d**ks have swapped to Audis and VWs, I concur!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    amcalester wrote: »
    The barrier in the M1 came down and hit the top of your car one morning when a van did just that.

    Frightened the **** out of me, now I always slow down until I see that the car in front has been tagged.

    I almost had the same in Portlaoise. Clipped the roof but no damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    arleitiss wrote:
    Was this M1 Fast Lane?


    Fast lane? We don't have those in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arleitiss


    tedpan wrote: »
    Fast lane? We don't have those in Ireland

    I mean express toll lane :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    tedpan wrote: »
    Fast lane? We don't have those in Ireland

    You just think that cause you don't have a bmw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    xabi wrote: »
    Coming up to the toll earlier I had a 3 series right on my bumper, looked like he was trying to dodge the cameras. I thought they countered that by reading the rear plate too, or did they?

    In any case, I floored it just before the gantry so his plate was read, bit weird.

    Perhaps you were driving too slow in the first place? Do you drive a Toyota?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    What :confused:

    He assumed the other driver was dodging the toll camera. One could argue the OP was driving too slow, and the other driver was right up behind him, because he was driving too slow or slowed down too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    He assumed the other driver was dodging the toll camera. One could argue the OP was driving too slow, and the other driver was right up behind him, because he was driving too slow or slowed down too much.

    How does tailgating help increase the speed of the car in front?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    He assumed the other driver was dodging the toll camera. One could argue the OP was driving too slow, and the other driver was right up behind him, because he was driving too slow or slowed down too much.

    FFS are you for real? I was in lane one doing slightly over 100, in any case its no excuse for tailgating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    xabi wrote: »
    FFS are you for real? I was in lane one doing slightly over 100, in any case its no excuse for tailgating.

    Or speeding :p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    He assumed the other driver was dodging the toll camera. One could argue the OP was driving too slow, and the other driver was right up behind him, because he was driving too slow or slowed down too much.

    Drivers that do this are twats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    IS it time tolls were done away with? how much a day do they make and where does the money go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Or speeding :p:p

    Only slightly speeding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    decky1 wrote: »
    IS it time tolls were done away with? how much a day do they make and where does the money go?

    Tolls aren't going away, they are going to become ubiquitous. They can't lose the cash cow from motoring when we go to EV so the solution is charge per km


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Tolls aren't going away, they are going to become ubiquitous. They can't lose the cash cow from motoring when we go to EV so the solution is charge per km

    Yes tolls to pay for roads that the government won't fund. But of course they extend the dates as they make serious money. A quick google claims the m50 made €110m in 2014.

    I've never driven a car in France but apparently they have a crazy amount of tolls, expect the same here in time. Good point on EV cars, the government are already looking for ways to get back money they have lost from motor tax because people are driving cars with lower CO2 emissions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arleitiss


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes tolls to pay for roads that the government won't fund. But of course they extend the dates as they make serious money. A quick google claims the m50 made €110m in 2014.

    I've never driven a car in France but apparently they have a crazy amount of tolls, expect the same here in time. Good point on EV cars, the government are already looking for ways to get back money they have lost from motor tax because people are driving cars with lower CO2 emissions.

    Drove across France (From Paris to Alps, around 800 Km)

    Paid well over 80 Euro in Tolls, was going on main motorway and there was a toll every 70/80 km or so.


    Also I think they are taking down your average speed between toll points (Because I got fine in the post for speeding and motorway is the only road I drove on)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    xabi wrote: »
    FFS are you for real? I was in lane one doing slightly over 100, in any case its no excuse for tailgating.

    Calm down, I'm not picking anyone's side, but you have to look at it from all sides.

    You're absolutely right, there is not excuse for tailgating, but I've been tailgated and thousands of other drivers on a daily basis, regardless of whether there was a toll or not. We don't know for sure if that's why he was tailgating you.

    If he was doing it to avoid the toll, then you have no need to worry as his rear reg plate would have been picked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    xabi wrote: »
    Only slightly speeding

    I think the limit is much lower than 100 approaching the toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    arleitiss wrote: »
    Drove across France (From Paris to Alps, around 800 Km)

    Paid well over 80 Euro in Tolls, was going on main motorway and there was a toll every 70/80 km or so.


    Also I think they are taking down your average speed between toll points (Because I got fine in the post for speeding and motorway is the only road I drove on)

    But there's no car tax in France


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arleitiss


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    But there's no car tax in France

    Oh really? Didn't know that.
    That's fine then, still sucks for tourists tho.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    arleitiss wrote: »
    Oh really? Didn't know that.
    That's fine then, still sucks for tourists tho.
    All the more reason for tolls. Everyone pays for usage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Japan is the king of expensive tolls. If you wanted to drive from Tokyo to Hiroshima (about 10 hours) it's roughly €150 in tolls EACH WAY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    Isambard wrote: »
    I think the limit is much lower than 100 approaching the toll.

    its 100 all the way through


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    Calm down, I'm not picking anyone's side, but you have to look at it from all sides.

    You're absolutely right, there is not excuse for tailgating, but I've been tailgated and thousands of other drivers on a daily basis, regardless of whether there was a toll or not. We don't know for sure if that's why he was tailgating you.

    If he was doing it to avoid the toll, then you have no need to worry as his rear reg plate would have been picked up.


    The toll gantry seems a good place for a tailgating camera, if the lazyabouts in Leinster House would get the necessary regulations in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Isambard wrote: »
    I think the limit is much lower than 100 approaching the toll.

    M50 is free flow/barrier free. Maybe your thinking of the M4/3/6 etc etc.


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