Celebrities being stumped by vocabulary

bobbyss

Loose Women presenter (and journalist I believe) Coleen Nolan was talking with fellow panelist and journalist Jane Moore who used the word oligarch. 'What's that?' asked Coleen.

I found that strange that a journalist talking about current affairs didn't know what an oligarchy was.

On RTE Liam Brady told Bill O'Herily, when talking about a successor to Ireland's football manager, that he would answer his question if he explained to him what 'incumbent ' meant.

evolving_doors

At least she had the honesty to ask.

Mint Sauce

Loose Women, Current Affairs Show? Coleen Nolan, Journalist?

bobbyss

Mint Sauce wrote:

Loose Women, Current Affairs Show? Coleen Nolan, Journalist?

I think they talk about current issues. I think she writes for a newspaper.

andekwarhola

bobbyss wrote: »

Liam Brady told Bill O'Herily, when talking about a successor to Ireland's football manager, that he would answer his question if he explained to him what 'incumbent ' meant.

Just ask Bill to dink a lovely ball through for Juventus and they're square.

Chancer3001

Irony of not being able to spell celebrities

I suppose they have to think of their viewers as well. Maybe she didn't know. Or maybe she did but guessed some viewers wouldn't.

Alf Veedersane

bobbyss wrote: »

I think they talk about current issues. I think she writes for a newspaper.

Having a newspaper column is not the same as being a journalist.

brevity

evolving_doors wrote: »

At least she had the honesty to ask.

Yea. Ignorance isn't necessarily a bad thing if you are will to admit it. If you don't know something it's okay to ask.

Mint Sauce

bobbyss wrote: »

I think they talk about current issues. I think she writes for a newspaper.

She might have a column. Dont think it makes her a Journalist.

Edit.

Alf got there before me.

Hector Bellend

andekwarhola wrote: »

Just ask Bill to dink a lovely ball through for Juventus and they're square.

Darragh Maloney

bobbyss

Alf Veedersane wrote:

Having a newspaper column is not the same as being a journalist.

Yes. I have often wondered about that. She's probably a columnist maybe in all honesty.

But can't anyone describe themselves as a journalist? I can't really say i am a doctor as I know nothing about medicine. Have no qualification either.
If I have a blog or something like that and I write whatever, couldn't I describe myself as a journalist?

Eamon Dunphy for example. Is he a journalist or a columist?

People are just getting stupider anyway, and it doesn't seem to be disencouraged..

Hector Bellend

bobbyss wrote: »

Yes. I have often wondered about that. She's probably a columnist maybe in all honesty.

But can't anyone describe themselves as a journalist? I can't really say i am a doctor as I know nothing about medicine. Have no qualification either.
If I have a blog or something like that and I write whatever, couldn't I describe myself as a journalist?

Eamon Dunphy for example. Is he a journalist or a columist?

A guttersnipe

Hector Bellend

Deleted User wrote: »

People are just getting stupider anyway, and it doesn't seem to be disencouraged..

Those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.

bobbyss

Chancer3001 wrote:

Irony of not being able to spell celebrities

Fair enough.
I was rushing and my phone makes efforts inputting stuff clumsy.

They are my excuses.

What are yours?

Cushie Butterfield

Coleen Nolan is an Agony Aunt for one of the UK tabloids - not a journalist. She doesn’t claim to be a journalist either.

Outlaw Pete

Can't stand people who use rarely used words in normal conversation to try and appear more intelligent than they are actually are, which is what I feel Jane Moore did here, but I'm a bit of a fan of hers usually as I find her very brachylogical.

Giraffe Box

bluewolf wrote: »

I suppose they have to think of their viewers as well. Maybe she didn't know. Or maybe she did but guessed some viewers wouldn't.

That's quite possible.
Vincent Browne used to ask his guests to explain the meaning of abbreviations and acronyms however simple, and I'm pretty sure that he himself understood what they meant.

bobbyss

Cushie Butterfield wrote: »

Coleen Nolan is an Agony Aunt for one of the UK tabloids - not a journalist. She doesn’t claim to be a journalist either.

Yes, I thought that was the case and that's why I said I believed she was a journalist. I wasn't sure.

People still seem to have some ridiculously quaint idea of journalists as educated people.


Not only are the vast majority of Irish journalists unaware of basic nuances in English grammar and syntax but they're mere sycophants of the powerful - as shown for almost 40 years of Anthony O'Reilly's near monopoly in the Irish print media. A hugely contemptible profession of anglocentric, creatively challenged thugs and bullyboys with not a single fibre of public interest investigative journalism, that moribund branch of journalism and the only branch worthy of respect, in their bones.

riffmongous

I'm none too plussed by all this

Capt'n Midnight

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Loose Women, Current Affairs Show? Coleen Nolan, Journalist?

Celebrities ?

Capt'n Midnight

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Having a newspaper column is not the same as being a journalist.

My fave tutor at uni had a great journalism 101 lesson: “If someone says it's raining & another person says it's dry, it's not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the f**king window and find out which is true.”
- CBA tracking down the original source.

Chancer3001

bobbyss wrote: »

Fair enough.
I was rushing and my phone makes efforts inputting stuff clumsy.

They are my excuses.

What are yours?

Excuses for what?

beauf

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

My fave tutor at uni had a great journalism 101 lesson: “If someone says it's raining & another person says it's dry, it's not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the f**king window and find out which is true.”
- CBA tracking down the original source.

I like it.

However that is not how the popular media is done these days. Unfortunately.

RocketRaccoon

I would absolutely love to see a male version of loose women just to see the reaction of feminists all over the land.

dxhound2005

beauf wrote: »

I like it.

However that is not how the popular media is done these days. Unfortunately.

I take my news from the unpopular media.

Joe prim

bobbyss wrote: »

Yes. I have often wondered about that. She's probably a columnist maybe in all honesty.

But can't anyone describe themselves as a journalist? I can't really say i am a doctor as I know nothing about medicine. Have no qualification either.
If I have a blog or something like that and I write whatever, couldn't I describe myself as a journalist?

Eamon Dunphy for example. Is he a journalist or a columist?

What's a columist?


(FYI he's neither, he's just a mouthy Cnut )

Will I Am Not

Ask the meaning of a word or try to wing it and risk looking a bigger fool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpH1goouCLQ

Yer Da sells Avon

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Having a newspaper column is not the same as being a journalist.

Having a newspaper column is also not the same as writing a newspaper column.

Mint Sauce

The main question is though, what does oligarchy mean?

Alf Veedersane

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Having a newspaper column is also not the same as writing a newspaper column.

To be fair, if it is an agony aunt column she could probably handle that. You don't really need to excel at writing good for that.

Mountainsandh

Mint Sauce wrote: »

The main question is though, what does oligarchy mean?

Well, there's -archy in it, so it must be something to do with starch, although it sounds more like a type of cheese to me.

You're welcome.:cool:

dxhound2005

It's an anagram of Holy Cigar.