7 seater EV

RobAMerc

Is there any plans for 7 seater EV's from any of the manufacturers ?

I imagine the way things are going they will predominantly 7 seat X-overs or SUV types

Wheety

Tesla X can be configured for 7 seats.

slave1

Nissan NV200, already here a few years

RobAMerc

Wheety wrote: »

Tesla X can be configured for 7 seats.

Bit out of my price range - ( I would think a bit out of most peoples really )

slave1 wrote: »

Nissan NV200, already here a few years

That's a van ( or bus ) not a 7 seat car or SUV

unkel

RobAMerc wrote: »

Bit out of my price range - ( I would think a bit out of most peoples really

Second hand model S can also be configured as a 7 seater. From around the £28k mark second hand plus a couple of grand in VRT

RobAMerc

are there potentially big bills looming in a 2014 model S ?

There is the issue that I'd have to sell my own car to travel.

Shefwedfan

Depending on children age you could look at multimac....I have eGolf with 1260 Multimac which gives space for 2 adults and 4 children

At the moment that is it....

If a decent 7 seater was available I would buy......

Orebro

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Depending on children age you could look at multimac....I have eGolf with 1260 Multimac which gives space for 2 adults and 4 children

At the moment that is it....

If a decent 7 seater was available I would buy......

Is there any issues with insurance in using one of these? Do you have to notify them? They’re very interesting yokes, wouldn’t mind one myself

Shefwedfan

Orebro wrote: »

Is there any issues with insurance in using one of these? Do you have to notify them? They’re very interesting yokes, wouldn’t mind one myself

You need to notify them. One insurance company(Blue) said they would not cover them


Every other would cover at no additional cost. You need to have installed with a certified installation company and send the receipt to them.


Apart from that it was no extra on my eGolf

I talked to 2 other mates who got them as well and they had no issues with insurance.

unkel

RobAMerc wrote: »

are there potentially big bills looming in a 2014 model S ?

Nobody knows. But the motor, drivetrain and battery (the really expensive stuff) are all under warranty for another 4 years

Lots of issues with the Model S, but Tesla are good at not just repairing under warranty but also fixing them with improved parts

The bad thing is that Model S is the least depreciating car in the UK. So good value new, not so good value second hand. And that is really the only reason I don't own one.

conor_mc

RobAMerc wrote: »

are there potentially big bills looming in a 2014 model S ?

There is the issue that I'd have to sell my own car to travel.

I think insurance on a Model S can be pricey, have heard 2k a year.

Shefwedfan

RobAMerc wrote: »

are there potentially big bills looming in a 2014 model S ?

There is the issue that I'd have to sell my own car to travel.

Have a look at youtube....some video's available which will explain what repairs have been done by Tesla, all under warranty of course


Apart from that I cannot comment

slave1

RobAMerc wrote: »

Bit out of my price range - ( I would think a bit out of most peoples really )



That's a van ( or bus ) not a 7 seat car or SUV

Could have sworn I’ve seen a 7seat passenger version....

slave1

Apologies, I’m on the phone so messy to clean post but here’s the 7 seater, not a van

https://insideevs.com/nissan-launches-7-seat-e-nv200-in-uk-from-23400/

Del2005

unkel wrote: »

Nobody knows. But the motor, drivetrain and battery (the really expensive stuff) are all under warranty for another 4 years

Lots of issues with the Model S, but Tesla are good at not just repairing under warranty but also fixing them with improved parts

The bad thing is that Model S is the least depreciating car in the UK. So good value new, not so good value second hand. And that is really the only reason I don't own one.

Is it not the X that can be configured to 7 seats? I can't see how a 4 door saloon can be a 7 seater.

conor_mc

Del2005 wrote: »

Is it not the X that can be configured to 7 seats? I can't see how a 4 door saloon can be a 7 seater.

Two rear-facing fold-down seats in the boot.

GarIT

slave1 wrote: »

Apologies, I’m on the phone so messy to clean post but here’s the 7 seater, not a van

https://insideevs.com/nissan-launches-7-seat-e-nv200-in-uk-from-23400/

I'd say that's really economical too. You'd be too embarrassed to be seen in it so it would cut down on your mileage a lot.

unkel

conor_mc wrote: »

Two rear-facing fold-down seats in the boot.

This. The boot is huge and there is also a front boot ("frunk") so it's an ideal configuration if you only occasionally need to transport more than 5 people. Say bring granny on a day out or something or kids to school / sport locally.

Not really suitable for a family of 7 though. But then again how many families that have bought 7-seaters were actually families of 7+? I'd say no more than 5%

ewj1978

The new nv200 can also be got with the 40kwh battery but ,and this is a big but, its got a cooling system so shouldn't be effected by rapid gate.
Only problem is trying to source one.

conor_mc

unkel wrote: »

This. The boot is huge and there is also a front boot ("frunk") so it's an ideal configuration if you only occasionally need to transport more than 5 people. Say bring granny on a day out or something or kids to school / sport locally.

Not really suitable for a family of 7 though. But then again how many families of less than 7 have been buying 7 seaters? I'd say 95%

\raises hand

Bringing the kids cousins/friends along, collecting grandparents, etc.

An S-Max with about 100km range would suit 99.9% of our driving!!! I’d love to go for a 7-seater Model S, but those 2k insurance stories put me off, plus even a bargain basement second-hand S is still a bit too pricey for us.

farmerwifelet

There are quite a few mitsubishi outlander 7 seater hybrids out there if you can't go full electric

Shefwedfan

farmerwifelet wrote: »

There are quite a few mitsubishi outlander 7 seater hybrids out there if you can't go full electric

The PHEV is not 7 seater, the battery takes up the space used for the 7 seats in the diesel version

Shefwedfan

conor_mc wrote: »

\raises hand

Bringing the kids cousins/friends along, collecting grandparents, etc.

An S-Max with about 100km range would suit 99.9% of our driving!!! I’d love to go for a 7-seater Model S, but those 2k insurance stories put me off, plus even a bargain basement second-hand S is still a bit too pricey for us.

Ford have been talking for a few years about a hybrid SMAX, it was supposed to launch this year in US but last time I checked no sign of it....

farmerwifelet

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The PHEV is not 7 seater, the battery takes up the space used for the 7 seats in the diesel version

Sorry my mistake I was looking at so many of them I was sure it was a 7 seater.

ted1

farmerwifelet wrote: »

There are quite a few mitsubishi outlander 7 seater hybrids out there if you can't go full electric

Only available in 5 seats. The battery takes the place of the additional 2

unkel

conor_mc wrote: »

I’d love to go for a 7-seater Model S, but those 2k insurance stories put me off, plus even a bargain basement second-hand S is still a bit too pricey for us.

I'd say in a lot of cases that was company cars. Ring your insurer to find out. Obviously a must before you buy any car!

As for too pricey. Yeah. The Model S keeps its value for too well

conor_mc

unkel wrote: »

I'd say in a lot of cases that was company cars. Ring your insurer to find out. Obviously a must before you buy any car!

Did a quick online quote there, turns out you’re right unkel! 625e for a basic 2014 60kwh S, that’s not too painful!

\heads off to autotrader

grogi

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Depending on children age you could look at multimac....I have eGolf with 1260 Multimac which gives space for 2 adults and 4 children

At the moment that is it....

If a decent 7 seater was available I would buy......

No, you can't put 6 people in it. 5-seater can still transport only five people, regardless how many Multimacs you put inside...

Shefwedfan

grogi wrote: »

No, you can't. 5-seater can still transport only five people, regardless how many mutlimacs you put inside...

Not according to my insurance

Also, my 2 friends, have them installed, they have insurance no problem

Plus my friend in Nissan recommends them to lots of people.....

The person I bought it from had it installed for a few years with no issue

grogi

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not according to my insurance

What do Type approval and your log-book say? You would have to have the car approved to carry 6 passengers, probably with Individual Vehicle Approval scheme.
Right now you can transport 4 kids and an adult - but 2 adults and 4 kids is a no-go.

You don't have insurance issues because they are not illegal and are not modifications. They are simply constraining devices. But you cannot put one and expect for the capacity of your car to be magically increased, the same way you cannot just install additional seats in the boot.

Shefwedfan

grogi wrote: »

What do Type approval and your log-book say? You would have to have the car approved to carry 6 passengers, probably with Individual Vehicle Approval scheme.
Right now you can transport 4 kids and an adult - but 2 adults and 4 kids is a no-go.

You don't have insurance issues because they are not illegal and are not modifications. They are simply constraining devices. But you cannot put one and expect for the capacity of your car to be magically increased, the same way you cannot just install additional seats in the boot.

The company, Blue, which turned it down because it is classified as a modification.

RobAMerc

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ford have been talking for a few years about a hybrid SMAX, it was supposed to launch this year in US but last time I checked no sign of it....

I think Ford wont even replace the current S-Max, everyone wants an SUV now, the 7 seat Edge replacement is more likely the electric candidate ( if ford ever get round to it )

Shefwedfan

RobAMerc wrote: »

I think Ford wont even replace the current S-Max, everyone wants an SUV now, the 7 seat Edge replacement is more likely the electric candidate ( if ford ever get round to it )

http://fordfansreviews.com/2019-ford-s-max-hybrid/


This was supposed to be the 2018 SMAX but got pushed back till 2019


Yes I know everyone wants a SUV.....apart from all the people who drive Galaxy and SMAX's


It wil be a pity if they get rid of them.....

ted1

RobAMerc wrote: »

I think Ford wont even replace the current S-Max, everyone wants an SUV now, the 7 seat Edge replacement is more likely the electric candidate ( if ford ever get round to it )

mid size SUV's tend to make poor 7 seaters. probably due to the larger wheel arches..

positron

If Tesla were to produce a Model S estate variant, with the two seats in the boot option that might work out. Someone in UK converted their Model S into an estate (sportback I think they call it), it was on FullyCharged @ YouTube

grogi

positron wrote: »

If Tesla were to produce a Model S estate variant, with the two seats in the boot option that might work out. Someone in UK converted their Model S into an estate (sportback I think they call it), it was on FullyCharged @ YouTube

If only your research was a bit more thorough...



Adults clearly won't fit - but they are ideal for kids. And you get benefits of ERF for free...

ted1

grogi wrote: »

If only your research was a bit more thorough...



Adults clearly won't fit - but they are ideal for kids. And you get benefits of ERF for free...

he did say a variant!!!! so they could fit.

positron

grogi wrote: »

If only your research was a bit more thorough..

If only people wouldn't take other people on internet so seriously.

Anyway, here's the conversion, it's clearly not a 7 seater, and still the +2 would only suit kids. And of course it makes zero sense considering the cost of conversion etc. But if Tesla wanted to produce the estate version... may be... but they don't need to, they can't make enough as is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtYeDiHshU

d'Oracle

slave1 wrote: »

Apologies, I’m on the phone so messy to clean post but here’s the 7 seater, not a van

https://insideevs.com/nissan-launches-7-seat-e-nv200-in-uk-from-23400/

That is some terrible photoshopping in there.