FTA, but not on Freesat

mikeecho

I have a non freesat tv that has a built in sat tuner

It's a bit of a pain to sort and retune channels, so I got a freesat box.

I have one feed going to the freesat stb and one to the tv.
The plan is to put a limited number of sat channels on the tv.
CNN HD, C4 HD, ses Uhd channels etc

What other channels are fta but not on the freesat epg ?

I've no interest in the shopping/religious channels.

The high horse brigade

mikeecho wrote: »

I have a non freesat tv that has a built in sat tuner

It's a bit of a pain to sort and retune channels, so I got a freesat box.

I have one feed going to the freesat stb and one to the tv.
The plan is to put a limited number of sat channels on the tv.
CNN HD, C4 HD, ses Uhd channels etc

What other channels are fta but not on the freesat epg ?

I've no interest in the shopping/religious channels.

Does the Freesat have recording? Usually the second satellite feed allows recording one channel while watching another.

There is nothing worth talking about on FTA once you have the Freesat ones, a few crappy music channels

fman

Channel 4 hd is the main one and paramount if that still hasn't been added to Freesat. Not sure there's anything else worth the effort unless there's a specific niche.

mikeecho

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Does the Freesat have recording? Usually the second satellite feed allows recording one channel while watching another.

There is nothing worth talking about on FTA once you have the Freesat ones, a few crappy music channels

Yeah the freesat has a hdd, it's not a function I use much., anyway I have another freesat stb in a different room than can be used for recording.

So what extra channels are there?

mikeecho

fman wrote: »

Channel 4 hd is the main one and paramount if that still hasn't been added to Freesat. Not sure there's anything else worth the effort unless there's a specific niche.

Ok, thanks.

The high horse brigade

mikeecho wrote: »

So what extra channels are there?

https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_of_channels_on_Freesat_(UK)#Non-Freesat_Mode

mikeecho

The high horse brigade wrote: »

https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_of_channels_on_Freesat_(UK)#Non-Freesat_Mode

Perfect.
Much appreciated

STB.

Depending on what model TV you have the likes of chansort sorts FTA satellite channel lists.

It's free.

mikeecho

STB. wrote: »

Depending on what model TV you have the likes of chansort sorts FTA satellite channel lists.

It's free.

It's a Sony tv, I only have a mac at the moment, so.. sorting the epg is an absolute pain., I should have a new windows machine soon.

I have the Sony sw for channel sorting saved somewhere.

My plan is to put the HD channels and a few other basic channels, as well as what's not on freesat onto the t.v. (excluding the foreign language/religious /shopping/crap)

STB.

Yeah chansort is great for LGS Samsung's etc.

Sony have their own channel sorter but again its windows based.

https://www.sony.ie/electronics/support/downloads/00015296

kooga

On my humax I've added paramount and tv5 monde plus ch 4 hd

Ste-

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread.

Is there anyway via tvheadend to get a full 7 day guide for FTA non freesat channels ?
I can get what programmes are on but it doesn't list any description for the programmes. The Freesat channels have the description in the subtitle field aswell.

Johnboy1951

Ste- wrote: »

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread.

Is there anyway via tvheadend to get a full 7 day guide for FTA non freesat channels ?
I can get what programmes are on but it doesn't list any description for the programmes. The Freesat channels have the description in the subtitle field aswell.

I noticed that the EPG info has recently disappeared here for the likes of Paramount, Sony Crime +1, Sony Crime 2.
It didn't bother me much .... thought it would come back soon.

Are those the channels you are referring to?

Ste-

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I noticed that the EPG info has recently disappeared here for the likes of Paramount, Sony Crime +1, Sony Crime 2.
It didn't bother me much .... thought it would come back soon.

Are those the channels you are referring to?

Yep that's the ones.

Johnboy1951

I have triggered OTA EPG Grabber in TVH so will see if that makes any difference today.

batistuta9

I've episode descriptions on mine, up to next Tuesday anyway.
Not sure it matters but what bouquet are you two using?

You can associate a channel with what EPG module to use in the settings, what are they showing?

Johnboy1951

Here, EPG Sources as follows

Paramount
opentv-skyuk-1036: opentv-skyuk-1036 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Sony Crime +1
opentv-skyuk-3216: opentv-skyuk-3216 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Sony Crime 2
opentv-skyuk-1048: opentv-skyuk-1048 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Spike +1
opentv-skyuk-1076: opentv-skyuk-1076 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Ste-

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Here, EPG Sources as follows

Paramount
opentv-skyuk-1036: opentv-skyuk-1036 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Sony Crime +1
opentv-skyuk-3216: opentv-skyuk-3216 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Sony Crime 2
opentv-skyuk-1048: opentv-skyuk-1048 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Spike +1
opentv-skyuk-1076: opentv-skyuk-1076 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

Mine are the exact same.

batistuta9

paramount is the only one those i've enabled but it's the same as you 1036.

i've channel 4hd, 5star+1, couple of news channels from the non freesat list & all have the programme descriptions too

Ste-

What order are your EPG grabber modules. Mine are as below.

Priorty. Grabber Name.

1. OpenTV: SKy UK
2. UK: Freeview
3. UK: Freesat
4. EIT: DVB Grabber

Johnboy1951

Ste- wrote: »

What order are your EPG grabber modules. Mine are as below.

Priorty. Grabber Name.

1. OpenTV: SKy UK
2. UK: Freeview
3. UK: Freesat
4. EIT: DVB Grabber

Mine are a bit different

[HTML]Priority 5 UK: Freesat
Priority 4 OpenTV: SKy UK
Priority 3 UK: Freeview
Priority 2 EIT: DVB Grabber[/HTML]

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

paramount is the only one those i've enabled but it's the same as you 1036.

i've channel 4hd, 5star+1, couple of news channels from the non freesat list & all have the programme descriptions too

Try adding one of the other channels and see if you can get EPG for it?

lawred2

fman wrote: »

Channel 4 hd is the main one and paramount if that still hasn't been added to Freesat. Not sure there's anything else worth the effort unless there's a specific niche.

Why was C4 HD taken off Freesat? It used to be there.

The high horse brigade

lawred2 wrote: »

Why was C4 HD taken off Freesat? It used to be there.

https://www.whathifi.com/news/freesat-loses-channel-4-hd-and-all4-over-carriage-fee-dispute

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Ste- wrote: »

What order are your EPG grabber modules. Mine are as below.

Priorty. Grabber Name.

1. OpenTV: SKy UK
2. UK: Freeview
3. UK: Freesat
4. EIT: DVB Grabber

Mine are a bit different

[HTML]Priority 5 UK: Freesat
Priority 4 OpenTV: SKy UK
Priority 3 UK: Freeview
Priority 2 EIT: DVB Grabber[/HTML]

this is the only one i've enabled
Priority 3 OpenTV: SKy UK

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Try adding one of the other channels and see if you can get EPG for it?

you'll owe me a pint for this :pac:

batistuta9

added the 3 mentioned earlier, none are 100%
Sony Crime +1 has a few desc. missing. probably >95 is there though.
crime 2 & spike+1 have some desc. missing and blocks of nothing at all

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

added the 3 mentioned earlier, none are 100%
Sony Crime +1 has a few desc. missing. probably >95 is there though.
crime 2 & spike+1 have some desc. missing and blocks of nothing at all

All very weird.

Will a virtual pint do?

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

All very weird.

Will a virtual pint do?

are you getting no programme info at all?

a pints a pint

Johnboy1951

No programme info at all ....... including Ch 4 HD, truTV +1, holiday+cruise, and maybe a couple of others

I will try forcing EPG grab again now.

Update:
Got Now & Next on Paramount

batistuta9

those 3 i added are near perfect for me today, only thing missing now is from 14-19hrs saturday on spike+1 nothing is showing even programme name

i use this version; Build: 4.2.3-20 ~ LibreELEC Tvh-addon v8.2.112

do you have any guide data for radio channels? i never get any for them

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

those 3 i added are near perfect for me today, only thing missing now is from 14-19hrs saturday on spike+1 nothing is showing even programme name

i use this version; Build: 4.2.3-20 ~ LibreELEC Tvh-addon v8.2.112

do you have any guide data for radio channels? i never get any for them

Yes I have full guide (to 23rd Aug) for all the radio stations I have mapped .......
with the exception of Newstalk, Classic Rock and Absolute 90s.

The full EPG stations include all RTÉ channels, BBCs, Absolute, Absolute 80s, Planet Rock, Gold and Classic FM.

Ste-

Hmm my version is 4.2.2-32 and libreelec tvh-addon v8.1.111

Johnboy1951

Ste- wrote: »

Hmm my version is 4.2.2-32 and libreelec tvh-addon v8.1.111

TVH 4.2.6-1 ~ CoreElec Tvh-addon v9.0.115

(Coreelec is a fork of LE for AmLogic devices)

Johnboy1951

EPG is beginning to populate for those channels today. It did not fully fill during timed EPG update, but is apparently continuing to grab EPG data. It does go out to 7 days.

batistuta9

i use one of the sky bouquets & it associates the epg with a the channel number from sky. is it doing that with you two

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

i use one of the sky bouquets & it associates the epg with a the channel number from sky. is it doing that with you two

No. I do not use any Sky bouquets.

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

No. I do not use any Sky bouquets.

just add whatever channels you want yourself is it?

i'm trying to think on differences between the setups. the guide data isn't even showing on the web interface for you, no?

could you post the epg you have for rte radio 1 for me

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

just add whatever channels you want yourself is it?

Yes

i'm trying to think on differences between the setups. the guide data isn't even showing on the web interface for you, no?

could you post the epg you have for rte radio 1 for me

As I said above, the missing channel EPGs arrived today.

What RTE 1 EPG do you want? Some date?

batistuta9

no,the source. & bbc radio 1 + 5live if you have them

Johnboy1951

RTE 1 is blank as it is from terrestrial.

BBC R1 opentv-skyuk-2111: opentv-skyuk-2111 (OpenTV: Sky UK)

I don't have 5 live in my list

Ste-

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Yes



As I said above, the missing channel EPGs arrived today.

What RTE 1 EPG do you want? Some date?

Did you change anything ?

Johnboy1951

Ste- wrote: »

Did you change anything ?

no, backend server still running ...... think it got a re-boot when I was at other devices on the same mains connection, but that is all.

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

no,the source. & bbc radio 1 + 5live if you have them

Can I ask a similar favour?
Can you provide the source EPG (opentv-skyuk) for Sony Movies?

Thanks.

Ste-

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

no, backend server still running ...... think it got a re-boot when I was at other devices on the same mains connection, but that is all.

Seems to be all the channels not in the bouquet I'm missing the guide for.
I'm using England HD: London/London.

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Can I ask a similar favour?
Can you provide the source EPG (opentv-skyuk) for Sony Movies?

Thanks.

3709

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

3709

Thanks, I meant to post back yesterday that I got it.

3709 it is and am able to use it.

mikeecho

STB. wrote: »

Yeah chansort is great for LGS Samsung's etc.

Sony have their own channel sorter but again its windows based.

https://www.sony.ie/electronics/support/downloads/00015296

Update:
I've found a Mac OSX version for editing channels on a Sony.
I've yet to try it out.

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/downloads/00015357