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Unsure about moving jobs

  • 02-08-2018 8:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    Hi

    I'm working for a company that I like, great boss, nice work colleagues, not a lot of bullying or politics.

    However I hate the job, it is killing my soul, there is no aspect of the job I enjoy.

    I have recently received a job offer, however I'm uncertain. I called in to this prospective new workplace and I wasn't impressed with the atmosphere, some of the staff seemed a bit bitchy.

    I thought I couldn't wait to start this job, but I am beginning to have doubts, I don't want to go into a work situation where I'll be bullied or have to deal with heavy office politics or even a mean boss.

    Any advice?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭NiceFella


    Well if you gathered that vibe after 20 mins checking it out then imagine what it would be like working Mon-Fri.
    Turn it down OP in my opinion. There are very few things worse than a job with a bad atmosphere. It's Toxic.
    I work in one such organisation. When I first started I noticed that people seldom greet each other with good morning when they start. I also noticed that people generally didn't even say thanks when you held the door for them. Alot of passive aggression and hierarchy in my place and I plan on leaving once I get the money and a decent plan together. What you need to do is stay were you are and work up savings to either upskill to get a job you think you would like or just browse more to find something that might be ideal. It takes time and planning. Make a plan and the days in your current job will be easier because you know your at least working to something. Don't sell yourself out for meager pay rise only to be walked on in these up town jobs. Your integrity is more important. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    Hi NiceFella

    Thanks for your reply, yes it's that type of environment that I fear end up moving to. I've been applying for jobs for well over a year and a half, done interviews etc no luck, this job offer is the first job I've gotten in that time. Plus it's a state job, so it would have better opportunities long term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭NiceFella


    iojht667y wrote:
    Thanks for your reply, yes it's that type of environment that I fear end up moving to. I've been applying for jobs for well over a year and a half, done interviews etc no luck, this job offer is the first job I've gotten in that time. Plus it's a state job, so it would have better opportunities long term.


    I understand were your coming from and I might add I don't know all the factors at play in your life to make an informed decision. State jobs are a mixed bag. I worked for the civil service and so did a few friends and we all had different opinions on it. It really depends on the boss tbh. They can make or break a job.

    I'll guess that the state job is not a million miles different from your current role? So you would be moving for better opportunities. Which is fair enough if you think you could handle working in an environment you might not like. It just depends on whether you can afford to move to a possible bad job at this moment in time. If you're young then maybe you can chance it and if it's **** then ye know live and learn. But all I'm getting at is you might be a little under confident in getting another job that would suit you better. You said you were searching for over a year and no luck until this came along. Are you being a little desperate? Could it be that you've gotten better at interviews and could probably a job that suits you better? Again just food for thought, you know yourself what your able for and what you can commit to. So all I can say is go with your gut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    Hi NiceFella

    Thanks again for taking the time to post.
    Actually I interviewed for this job a few years ago and was put on a reserve panel, so it's pure fluke that I ended up being offered it now! It's fair to say that my interview skills haven't improved by much it would seem😂!

    Yes, I'm afraid of ending up in a toxic work environment, all new jobs will only reveal that once you are in a job. But I'm really dissatisfied in my current role, the company is small, so no other jobs on the horizon within the organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭NiceFella


    Up to you OP and best of luck whatever you decide. If you think your stuck in the other job then go for the other one. In any case you'll learn from it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,438 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Maybe you called at a bad time?
    Is there anyone who you can ask and try scope out the place a bit?
    Maybe you only saw a fraction of the people working there?
    I would concur that a toxic work environment with horrible people is a soul destroyer. Think everyone of us has been there at some stage
    Some people can rise above those places but others just get the life sucked out of them. You seem to know your personality and what you can cope with it so stick to your morals.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    Thanks for your advice NiceFella

    Yes Purple Mountain, I could try calling in again at a different time and day just to see what it's like then. I was just trying to figure out this evening if I know of anyone working in this area, I dont think I do, but I was tempted to try and spark up a conversation with one of their employees the next time I was in, sound out the role and the workplace a bit more.

    If I leave my current role, I won't get it back, theres already a very strong team member who I think they have in mind to replace me should I leave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,438 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    iojht667y wrote: »
    Thanks for your advice NiceFella

    Yes Purple Mountain, I could try calling in again at a different time and day just to see what it's like then. I was just trying to figure out this evening if I know of anyone working in this area, I dont think I do, but I was tempted to try and spark up a conversation with one of their employees the next time I was in, sound out the role and the workplace a bit more.

    If I leave my current role, I won't get it back, theres already a very strong team member who I think they have in mind to replace me should I leave
    OK so my advice is..don't jump ship until you feel it right in your gut.
    I know you're unfulfilled in your current place but you are happy and not stressed which is huge.
    So..to get a challenging and fulfilling role with a nice environment is your mission...

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    I work closely with some state employees and not for all the tea in China would I take a job in any of the Departments I've encountered. Institutionalised is not healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    Caranica wrote: »
    I work closely with some state employees and not for all the tea in China would I take a job in any of the Departments I've encountered. Institutionalised is not healthy.

    Thanks for the reply. Yes I am afraid that there might be a stand offish culture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    iojht667y wrote: »
    Hi

    I'm working for a company that I like, great boss, nice work colleagues, not a lot of bullying or politics.

    However I hate the job, it is killing my soul, there is no aspect of the job I enjoy.

    I have recently received a job offer, however I'm uncertain. I called in to this prospective new workplace and I wasn't impressed with the atmosphere, some of the staff seemed a bit bitchy.

    I thought I couldn't wait to start this job, but I am beginning to have doubts, I don't want to go into a work situation where I'll be bullied or have to deal with heavy office politics or even a mean boss.

    Any advice?

    Who you work for is more important than WHAT you work at. Imagine loving your work, loving what you can accomplish, and loving the nature of what you do but having a TERRIBLE boss who doesn't see your value? I'd rather be working cleaning toilets for a nice boss than working in a senior management role with a bully. Work is only 9-5, lifestyle and happiness is far more important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    never_mind wrote: »
    Who you work for is more important than WHAT you work at. Imagine loving your work, loving what you can accomplish, and loving the nature of what you do but having a TERRIBLE boss who doesn't see your value? I'd rather be working cleaning toilets for a nice boss than working in a senior management role with a bully. Work is only 9-5, lifestyle and happiness is far more important.

    Hi Never mind, thanks for your reply. Yes, I really like my colleagues and the culture, just not the job so much... I'm afraidoing if I leave it could regret it, even though the job I have been offered is much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    iojht667y wrote: »
    Hi Never mind, thanks for your reply. Yes, I really like my colleagues and the culture, just not the job so much... I'm afraidoing if I leave it could regret it, even though the job I have been offered is much better.

    Why not use this as a way to re-negotiate your salary with your current employer? Emphasise how much you love the role, the people, the culture etc. but say you were offered another role with X as a salary increase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 iojht667y


    never_mind wrote: »
    Why not use this as a way to re-negotiate your salary with your current employer? Emphasise how much you love the role, the people, the culture etc. but say you were offered another role with X as a salary increase.

    I saw a colleague don't this a few years ago, he was with the company 15 years and did everything for them, he got a another job offer and asked for the salary to be increased, they didn't do it! He ended up leaving the company, he was so disappointed that they go wouldn't give him a raise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    iojht667y wrote: »
    I saw a colleague don't this a few years ago, he was with the company 15 years and did everything for them, he got a another job offer and asked for the salary to be increased, they didn't do it! He ended up leaving the company, he was so disappointed that they go wouldn't give him a raise.

    It boils down to what's more important: cash or culture. He knew then that he wasn't ever going to get a raise so he left. Better cornering an organisation in this sense. If the OP was to frame it in a way that they were 'headhunted' rather than was actively interviewing this will stand to them.


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