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Which Win 10 ISO?

  • 01-08-2018 12:10pm
    #1
    Gadgetman496
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    I have a Win 10 Pro key and need to download a Win 10 ISO.

    I am based in Ireland. Should I download the English or English International ISO?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • #2
    verycool
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    You download the creation tool... create the bootable usb / media... then choose the version after you enter the key (it'll display as a list like Home, Pro, Enterprise, etc.)

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10


  • #3
    Gadgetman496
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    verycool wrote: »
    You download the creation tool... create the bootable usb / media... then choose the version after you enter the key (it'll display as a list like Home, Pro, Enterprise, etc.)

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    It offers the options such as version English or English International too so I'm not sure which to take.

    What is the difference between English and English International? I'm guessing it's to do with one being US and the other for outside the US but I'm not sure?


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    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #4
    verycool
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    It offers the options such as version English or English International too so I'm not sure which to take.

    What is the difference between English and English International? I'm guessing it's to do with one being US and the other for outside the US but I'm not sure?


    My (uneducated) guess would be that it's language support, but as you say you wouldn't need this as you can always install the English IE language pack after install.


    Oh.. hang on... discussion on that topic here too!


    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/difference-in-english-english-international-mcts/faf255ba-b096-4cda-be3e-d88707686c22

    EDIT: also from your thread on here from 2015!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057494447


  • #5
    Gadgetman496
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    verycool wrote: »
    My (uneducated) guess would be that it's language support, but as you say you wouldn't need this as you can always install the English IE language pack after install.


    Oh.. hang on... discussion on that topic here too!


    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/difference-in-english-english-international-mcts/faf255ba-b096-4cda-be3e-d88707686c22

    EDIT: also from your thread on here from 2015!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057494447

    So English International is the new equivalent of what we used to know as English (UK) or English (British)?

    English International would be the correct one for me in that case?

    Why the fook don't they just state that?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #6
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    I'd forgotten about that old post!!

    Still, there isn't a definitive black or white answer that I can find to what should be a straight forward question...

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • #7
    Gadgetman496
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    I can download the ISO directly from MS without having to insert a key (not using the tool) as I want the ISO to be usable for other installs.

    I assume it will give me the option to insert the key during install?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #8
    verycool
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    I'd forgotten about that old post!!

    Still, there isn't a definitive black or white answer that I can find to what should be a straight forward question...
    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    I can download the ISO directly from MS without having to insert a key (not using the tool) as I want the ISO to be usable for other installs.

    I assume it will give me the option to insert the key during install?

    Quite annoying all right.

    But from your screenshot, imagine it was a choice between French or French Canadian. Same dilemma.

    Personally I'd just download the English International and then amend it after the install in Region in Control Panel (states that behind the drop down in your screenshot).

    When installing Windows 10 you'll be prompted to enter your key.


  • #9
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    It offers the options such as version English or English International too so I'm not sure which to take.

    What is the difference between English and English International? I'm guessing it's to do with one being US and the other for outside the US but I'm not sure?

    The difference is just the OS language, keyboard layout etc. Whether pressing shift+2 gives you or " or whatever


    You can change it after install, it's not a big deal.


  • #10
    Gadgetman496
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    Does the MS MediaCreationTool not let you use an existing ISO file you've downloaded to create a bootable USB drive?

    I've just tried it and it insists on downloading Win 10 again to the Flash Drive. It's not asking me to point to my ISO file.

    I want to make the ISO I already have bootable.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #11
    verycool
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Does the MS MediaCreationTool not let you use an existing ISO file you've downloaded to create a bootable USB drive?

    I've just tried it and it insists on downloading Win 10 again to the Flash Drive. It's not asking me to point to my ISO file.

    I want to make the ISO I already have bootable.


    Yes. It will download the iso again.


    If you want you can use rufus to create the iso yourself.


    https://rufus.akeo.ie/


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  • #12
    Gadgetman496
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    verycool wrote: »
    Yes. It will download the iso again.

    Forgive my stupidity here but, before it downloads the ISO again it spends quite some time checking the machine you are using and eventually starts the download. What's that all about if the media you want to create is for another machine altogether?

    Does it collect drivers or other information from the machine you are creating the media on? What's the point in that if it's meant to be used to install on another machine? :confused:

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #13
    smuggler.ie
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Forgive my stupidity here but, before it downloads the ISO again it spends quite some time checking the machine you are using and eventually starts the download. What's that all about if the media you want to create is for another machine altogether?

    Does it collect drivers or other information from the machine you are creating the media on? What's the point in that if it's meant to be used to install on another machine? :confused:
    Possibly you are right, but to me makes no sense - once booted, OS checks, downloads and installs needed drivers.


    If you want use .ISO you already have ,and don't want to install rufus(or other) , you can prep(make bootable) USB stick with DISKPART(cmd), extract/mount .iso and copy all content to USB.
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  • #14
    Gadgetman496
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    The one thing I do like about the MS creation tool is it lets you create 32 & 64bit on the one USB drive.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #15
    Gadgetman496
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    sugarman wrote: »
    Not being smart but what difference does it makes these days? Well over 10 years since I last encountered a CPU/Machine that wasn't a 64 bit.

    For the most part I'd agree with you but there are still plenty of older 32bit machines floating around small offices, I've come across some recently albeit all running Win7.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #16
    smuggler.ie
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    For the most part I'd agree with you but there are still plenty of older 32bit machines floating around small offices, I've come across some recently albeit all running Win7.
    ...that should probably "floated" out from them offices and replaced with modern PC's...:D
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  • #17
    Gadgetman496
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    Funnily enough, I used the latest MS media tool (MediaCreationTool 1803) earlier to create A Win 10 installer and during that process it offered English US or English UK in the options whereas the ISO direct download offers English or English International

    Don't you just love the consistency? :)

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #18
    smuggler.ie
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Funnily enough, I used the latest MS media tool (MediaCreationTool 1803) earlier to create A Win 10 installer and during that process it offered English US or English UK in the options whereas the ISO direct download offers English or English International

    Don't you just love the consistency? :)
    And hopefully to finalize this ..
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install-winpc/difference-in-english-english-international-mcts/faf255ba-b096-4cda-be3e-d88707686c22
    history of boards 2021




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