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31-07-2018 8:16am#1
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Basically it's a comfort thing. More suited to open road than twists and turns of irish country side. To be fair anyone who has given me advice has been on one . I know Harley davidson in Dublin will go give me a test drive before I go with my heart🀗Did anyone give you a reason to stay away from them or was it hearsay ? I've had a couple and loved them. Go test drive one. They're different. You buy a Harley with your heart and a BMW GS with your head
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Basically it's a comfort thing. More suited to open road than twists and turns of irish country side. To be fair anyone who has given me advice has been on one . I know Harley davidson in Dublin will go give me a test drive before I go with my heart��
Very true. I sold my Street Glide because it basically couldn't be driven in the rain. They fish tail around because of the length and weight of them.
Oh and if you want a HD buy from Belfast or Waterford.
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.....take a chair....
After a lot, and I mean a lot, of BMW's, I bought a H-D Road King in 2007, as short-term thing. With small kids etc, thought I'd keep it 2 or 3 years and go back on a BeeEmm or something.
11+year later, I still have it, and I love it. I still like BeeEmm's mind, and my SO has one, but I prefer the H-D.
Some myths to bust:- Reliability: in 11 years, and now at 50k kms, outside of normal servicing (less than €200/yr), I have had had 2 repairs: one cost €40, one cost €120 ish(new braided hoses to front). It has been a model of reliability above that to what I had before....part of this is simplicity. No radiators, coolant, no tappets, no chain or sprockets or shaft. A lot of the components are known to the Jap bike fraternity: Showa forks and shocks, Mikuni fuel injection, and I think - but I'm not 100% sure as it's never raised it's head, but I think the reg/rectifier is Nippondenso. I've never had anything rattle or fall off. Ever.
- Handling; in common with ALL bikes, the bike is usually better than the pilot. Yes it has limits, but you need to be pushing to get there. Certainly I have never found it a limiting factor, but you do work with what you've got. I freely admit I'd be useless on a Fireblade.
- Brakes: it has them. Two discs to front, one to rear. I've never found them limiting either, and remember, with a big V-Twin you're inclined to use engine braking a lot more.
- ...because someone mentioned it above: turning circle. That's in your head: yes it's long, and heavy and.........that's irrelevant. Its about technique. Lots of videos on YT will show you why. My example is here: https://youtu.be/W0NpE2Ax7WE
I'm also not precious about it, and have dropped it twice. The Yaris came off much worse........ - comfort. The std seat can be limiting if you do a lot of miles, and the pillion is only good for small derrieres......but an Airhawk seat will sort it for $117. I have the removeable screen on mine, and it transforms the bike.
- performance. I've no idea what BHP it has. I do know it cruises at motorway speeds very easily, but even more relevant, will bumble along on slower roads in 4th gear with zero complaints. And at the risk of a bunch of jokes, it goes slowly, very easily. By this I mean in traffic, filtering, working around local urban, farming traffic, and cyclists, it's a cinch. It won't win any high speed awards, but it is very torquey, and accelerates very very well.
- it is immeasurably higher in quality in terms of chrome and paint than any of my BeeEmms ever were, or even the Deauvilles we run as Blood Bikes. The caveat here is that after markert accessories are usually the weak point. Factory stuff seems to be very good, albeit expensive.
- economy. Varies, from 45mpg - 55mpg+ depending on what you're doing on it.
Does all the above me a H-D Fanboy ? - Fan, yes, but I'm not blind to the values of others: I'm also considering a new bike atmo, a Honda - but I'll park it beside the RK, not replace it. They both have their strengths.
I do a lot of riding, all year round, and would am the only guy amongst my peers not on Jap/German and I think you'll find I never get left behind.
Happy to show you mine if you like. Go and look and try them. And if H-D is a bit rich for your budget, I'd recommend a Honda Shadow in 600/750/1100 or a Yamaha Dragstar too. They're all good bikes.
EDIT Forgot: cleaning it is a pita. I'm kinda lazy with it that way tbh. Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Very true. I sold my Street Glide because it basically couldn't be driven in the rain. They fish tail around because of the length and weight of them.
Oh and if you want a HD buy from Belfast or Waterford.
Rain, seriously ??
Mine spends more time in the rain than anywhere else.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Did anyone give you a reason to stay away from them or was it hearsay ? I've had a couple and loved them. Go test drive one. They're different. You buy a Harley with your heart and a BMW GS with your head wallet
FTFY :P Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Very true. I sold my Street Glide because it basically couldn't be driven in the rain. They fish tail around because of the length and weight of them.
Oh and if you want a HD buy from Belfast or Waterford.
Bike I have my eye on his in Dublin . Has Dublin a reputation or should I not ask😑0 -
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I'm in the buy what your heart is set on club too. But definitely take one for a test ride.Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »Buy what you want. I always wanted a vmax and they all told me i was mad they xant go round corners etc. Bought one anyway and love it
My dad had one for a while, he said he said he was going to get a t-shirt saying "Yes, I know it doesn't corner, now fúck off"
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.....take a chair....
After a lot, and I mean a lot, of BMW's, I bought a H-D Road King in 2007, as short-term thing. With small kids etc, thought I'd keep it 2 or 3 years and go back on a BeeEmm or something.
11+year later, I still have it, and I love it. I still like BeeEmm's mind, and my SO has one, but I prefer the H-D.
Some myths to bust:- Reliability: in 11 years, and now at 50k kms, outside of normal servicing (less than €200/yr), I have had had 2 repairs: one cost €40, one cost €120 ish(new braided hoses to front). It has been a model of reliability above that to what I had before....part of this is simplicity. No radiators, coolant, no tappets, no chain or sprockets or shaft. A lot of the components are known to the Jap bike fraternity: Showa forks and shocks, Mikuni fuel injection, and I think - but I'm not 100% sure as it's never raised it's head, but I think the reg/rectifier is Nippondenso. I've never had anything rattle or fall off. Ever.
- Handling; in common with ALL bikes, the bike is usually better than the pilot. Yes it has limits, but you need to be pushing to get there. Certainly I have never found it a limiting factor, but you do work with what you've got. I freely admit I'd be useless on a Fireblade.
- Brakes: it has them. Two discs to front, one to rear. I've never found them limiting either, and remember, with a big V-Twin you're inclined to use engine braking a lot more.
- ...because someone mentioned it above: turning circle. That's in your head: yes it's long, and heavy and.........that's irrelevant. Its about technique. Lots of videos on YT will show you why. My example is here: https://youtu.be/W0NpE2Ax7WE
I'm also not precious about it, and have dropped it twice. The Yaris came off much worse........ - comfort. The std seat can be limiting if you do a lot of miles, and the pillion is only good for small derrieres......but an Airhawk seat will sort it for $117. I have the removeable screen on mine, and it transforms the bike.
- performance. I've no idea what BHP it has. I do know it cruises at motorway speeds very easily, but even more relevant, will bumble along on slower roads in 4th gear with zero complaints. And at the risk of a bunch of jokes, it goes slowly, very easily. By this I mean in traffic, filtering, working around local urban, farming traffic, and cyclists, it's a cinch. It won't win any high speed awards, but it is very torquey, and accelerates very very well.
- it is immeasurably higher in quality in terms of chrome and paint than any of my BeeEmms ever were, or even the Deauvilles we run as Blood Bikes. The caveat here is that after markert accessories are usually the weak point. Factory stuff seems to be very good, albeit expensive.
- economy. Varies, from 45mpg - 55mpg+ depending on what you're doing on it.
Does all the above me a H-D Fanboy ? - Fan, yes, but I'm not blind to the values of others: I'm also considering a new bike atmo, a Honda - but I'll park it beside the RK, not replace it. They both have their strengths.
I do a lot of riding, all year round, and would am the only guy amongst my peers not on Jap/German and I think you'll find I never get left behind.
Happy to show you mine if you like. Go and look and try them. And if H-D is a bit rich for your budget, I'd recommend a Honda Shadow in 600/750/1100 or a Yamaha Dragstar too. They're all good bikes.
EDIT Forgot: cleaning it is a pita. I'm kinda lazy with it that way tbh.
A lot of reading above. Thanks for info. Read it at work tonight. In over my head now. I see HARLEYS as like going out with a cracking bird, great to look at but could be a thundering bitch to live with!!0 -
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A lot of reading above. Thanks for info. Read it at work tonight. In over my head now. I see HARLEYS BMWas like going out with a cracking bird, great to look at but could be a thundering bitch to live with!!
FTFY :P Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Buy one of these when they are launched. Best of both worlds. :eek:
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/pan-america.html0 -
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Buy one of these when they are launched. Best of both worlds. :eek:
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/pan-america.html
Only if you like that style...;)
BTW op....take a spin on an Indian...cool bike..imo..0 -
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Buy one of these when they are launched. Best of both worlds. :eek:
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/pan-america.html
Fúcking hell, that's the worst looking bike I've ever seen. Leaving it primer grey makes it look worse! Each to their own!0 -
Good golly, i know I like H-D's, but that reminds me of.........
Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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