IP address

glenfieldman

If someone is harassing me could the Garda find the person using an IP address ?
And if so would the tell me who it is or is this against GDPR ?

demanufactured

This calls for Matlock...He'll find the culprit.

How Soon Is Now

People used to be at that years ago on yahoo messenger trying to find out where people lived if they didn't like them!

Let's just say most where very wide off the mark!

flookdgates

The Gardai barely know how to turn on a computer never mind trace an IP address. In this day and age of dynamic IP addresses and VPNs it is a lot more difficult to pin a comment on the web to a specific individual. My advice to you: log off the internet and your harasser loses their power.

Cabaal

Gardai will find their IP address don't worry, I'm sure they'll identify it as 127.0.0.1

Boom_Bap

The Garda wont find them, but there's stuff you can find with an IP Address depending how the harasser covers their tracks. you can then unravel things from the info you find....and it's all just by googling.

McMurphy

glenfieldman wrote: »

If someone is harassing me could the Garda find the person using an IP address ?
And if so would the tell me who it is or is this against GDPR ?

Anyone that doubts just how easily you can be traced on the net (if you aren't very tech savvy) go to the eircode website, and look for your eircode using location.

The website even pinpoints me when I move to the front of the house, to the back, etc etc.

Think about that the next time your telling some stranger you rode his ma sideways on the journal comment section.

flookdgates

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Anyone that doubts just how easily you can be traced on the net (if you aren't very tech savvy) go to the eircode website, and look for your eircode using location.

The website even pinpoints me when I move to the front of the house, to the back, etc etc.

Think about that the next time your telling some stranger you rode his ma sideways on the journal comment section.

You're confusing GPS with IP address. Perfect example of Irish ignorance of the internet and technology.

xabi

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Anyone that doubts just how easily you can be traced on the net (if you aren't very tech savvy) go to the eircode website, and look for your eircode using location.

The website even pinpoints me when I move to the front of the house, to the back, etc etc.

Think about that the next time your telling some stranger you rode his ma sideways on the journal comment section.

That’s nothing to do with your IP address

McMurphy

flookdgates wrote: »

You're confusing GPS with IP address. Perfect example of Irish ignorance of the internet and technology.

Sorry, I didn't know there was GPS tracking too:rolleyes:

That aside, the point is that if you believe you're anonymous on the net, and can't be tracked think again.

seamus

Short answer is yes, but they mightn't be all that bothered if it's just someone calling you a dickhead or making fun of you.

Plausible death threats and such, maybe. Given an IP, they can trace that back to an ISP, who when furnished with the proper legal documents will be obliged to hand over details of what subscriber had that IP at that time.

If they're using a proxy or VPN outside of the state though, you have no hope of tracing them.

flookdgates

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't know there was GPS built into my desktop pc:rolleyes:

That aside, the point is that if you believe you're anonymous on the net, think again.

You got called out for spouting uninformed ignorant crap about IP address so you post sarcastic emojis.

I'm very careful with my online activity. Anyone who doesn't use a VPN to post here is a fool. Think of all the pieces of personal info you've leaked throughout your thousands of posts. There are lads out there who will use that against you. Boards.ie is deeply hated among certain sections of the internet and they will have fun toying with you, as has happened others in the past.

Alf Veedersane

flookdgates wrote: »

The Gardai barely know how to turn on a computer never mind trace an IP address. In this day and age of dynamic IP addresses and VPNs it is a lot more difficult to pin a comment on the web to a specific individual. My advice to you: log off the internet and your harasser loses their power.

Sometimes morons aren't that savvy. In a previous job, a colleague managed a website and had a complaint. They were able to get the IP address but the guards had to request it. Not sure how that plays out now with GDPR but in any case, they found the moron responsible and they got a visit and all ended well.

flookdgates

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Sometimes morons aren't that savvy. In a previous job, a colleague managed a website and had a complaint. They were able to get the IP address but the guards had to request it. Not sure how that plays out now with GDPR but in any case, they found the moron responsible and they got a visit and all ended well.

Can you provide more details of the story? I'm curious what the crime the perp committed exactly to get the Gardai involved. The Gardai would have to subpoena the ISP to get the personal details of the poster. Even then, how can you prove it was the poster themselves who committed the crime. It would be tough to get a prosecution in court. "My neighbour must have logged on to my unsecured wifi network" or "my friend was over at the house using my laptop".

brainfreeze

glenfieldman wrote: »

could the Garda find the person using an IP address ?

If someone has committed a serious enough crime that the Garda would want to talk to them, yes they can find someone through their genuine IP address if they have it.

Once they have possession of the IP address and time of offense, they contact the ISP (Virgin, Eir, etc) who owns the IP address, and either through a warrant or other means, request the address of the person using that IP at that particular time.

Your ISP knows what accounts use what IP at any given time. That's how the Garda get it. They get the billing address of the account registered to that IP at that time.

It's not perfect, someone might be using a shared computer or a proxy, but that's how simple it is. They just ask.

glenfieldman wrote: »

And if so would the tell me who it is

Only if there is a legal basis to do so. They won't just tell you because you want to know. The law doesn't work like that, online or offline, for obvious reasons. The Garda have no obligation to settle your curiosity nor do they want to help you with your revenge fantasies .

Cordell

Screenshot of my work, VPN connected laptop. Blue blob - my location as in Google services, red dot where I actually am.

https://s15.postimg.cc/j4z445q5l/Untitled.png?dl=1

cherryghost

My apartment was robbed a few years back, but the phone they stole was still on and had Android's Location history enabled. So I had the phones IP also and a ****ing MAP of movements since my phone was robbed. They done absolutely nothing with the information I gave them.

Phone was wiped by the thieves about a week later so that was that

McMurphy

flookdgates wrote: »

You got called out for spouting uninformed ignorant crap about IP address so you post sarcastic emojis.

I think you may need to reread what I posted, and what you think I posted.

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Anyone that doubts just how easily you can be traced on the net (if you aren't very tech savvy) go to the eircode website, and look for your eircode using location.

The website even pinpoints me when I move to the front of the house, to the back, etc etc.

Think about that the next time your telling some stranger you rode his ma sideways on the journal comment section.

I'm very careful with my online activity. Anyone who doesn't use a VPN to post here is a fool. Think of all the pieces of personal info you've leaked throughout your thousands of posts. There are lads out there who will use that against you. Boards.ie is deeply hated among certain sections of the internet and they will have fun toying with you, as has happened others in the past.

Yeah, and I'm not arguing with you, I even posted this bit.

Anyone that doubts just how easily you can be traced on the net (if you aren't very tech savvy)

Tldr ip adresses are only one of many ways you can be traced on the net incognito mode or not.

So no need for the smart arsery belittling comments thanks.

verycool

Cabaal wrote: »

Gardai will find their IP address don't worry, I'm sure they'll identify it as 127.0.0.1

"The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE?!"


*snorts*

Alf Veedersane

flookdgates wrote: »

Can you provide more details of the story? I'm curious what the crime the perp committed exactly to get the Gardai involved. The Gardai would have to subpoena the ISP to get the personal details of the poster. Even then, how can you prove it was the poster themselves who committed the crime. It would be tough to get a prosecution in court. "My neighbour must have logged on to my unsecured wifi network" or "my friend was over at the house using my laptop".

All I know is that the guards had called around to have a word in the end. Not to bring in front of a court.

Captain Obvious

flookdgates wrote: »

You got called out for spouting uninformed ignorant crap about IP address so you post sarcastic emojis.

You're not exactly being too accurate in your posts either.

TheValeyard

If the IP is genuine, its straight forward. It the person is using a VPN located in another jurisdiction, then its very unlikely to be caught unless the VPN keeps logs, which is unlikely as its one if their selling points. If the person is using a vpn + another source, id say its near impossible. Its what makes tracking down child abusers so difficult. But eventually they slip up or data leaks or reveal information.

MonkeyTennis

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Think about that the next time your telling some stranger you rode his ma sideways on the journal comment section.

Why would anyone go to the journal comment section?

TheValeyard

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Why would anyone go to the journal comment section?

When you've been banned from here and reddit?

YFlyer

flookdgates wrote: »

The Gardai barely know how to turn on a computer never mind trace an IP address. In this day and age of dynamic IP addresses and VPNs it is a lot more difficult to pin a comment on the web to a specific individual. My advice to you: log off the internet and your harasser loses their power.

That be like asking a young wan not to wear a mini dress...

TheValeyard

flookdgates wrote: »

The Gardai barely know how to turn on a computer never mind trace an IP address. In this day and age of dynamic IP addresses and VPNs it is a lot more difficult to pin a comment on the web to a specific individual. My advice to you: log off the internet and your harasser loses their power.

They might know more than you think

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-30-homes-searched-as-part-of-investigation-into-child-abuse-images-37157489.html

EdgeCase

The Gardai can attempt to trace an IP address *if* they’re investigating a crime.
It would very much depend on whether the harassment message constituted a crime or not.

Grayson

you should ask an expert like Fidelma Healy Eames.

glenfieldman

Thanks for all the reply’s
I forgot to mention that it wasn’t an official complaint to the guards as there was no threat made by me
But he said he got a detective mate of his to find my address from my IP
And like I said, there was never a threat made, just hard banter that he took very much to heart

Captain Obvious

glenfieldman wrote: »

Thanks for all the reply’s
I forgot to mention that it wasn’t an official complaint to the guards as there was no threat made by me

Doesn't need to be a physical threat. There's three levels of the crime. The lowest tier is a pretty broad offence which covers a lot of acts.



The middle tier is the crime of harassment.


Top tier is making threats to kill or harm.

glenfieldman wrote: »

But he said he got a detective mate of his to find my address from my IP
And like I said, there was never a threat made, just hard banter that he took very much to heart

A detective can't just find an address through an IP unofficially unless it is registered publicly. This sounds like someone pulling your leg.

Donald Trump

Grayson wrote: »

you should ask an expert like Fidelma Healy Eames.

I'll take your Fidelma and raise you the below

In fairness, that Thornthon wan was a ride