Ireland - Knife Murders

hurler32

There seems to be a couple every week at this stage , doesn’t seem to matter where you are Dunleer, Mallow , Cahirciveen .... Dunmore East in Waterford last night ....someone looks at you sideways and you stab them to death☹️

The judges have a lot to answer for normally having give the murderer dozens of chances in the past plus Fine Gaels policy of closing virtually all rural Garda stations means scumbags can start intimidating their local communities from an early age without any fear of the law and progress to stabbing someone to death without any cares .

Are Am Eye

How many more innocent knives must lose their lives before we wake
up to this.

Cina

Nothing wrong with a game of knifey-spoon.

Fr_Dougal

Anyone convicted of stabbing someone should be convicted of attempted murder.

Chaos Tourist

And the thing is when you're out of your mind drunk at 3 in the morning and a row breaks out in a house somewhere, you don't even have to be a traditional dirtbird (dozens of convictions) for things to go very wrong in an instant.

Cabaal

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

And the thing is when you're out of your mind drunk at 3 in the morning and a row breaks out in a house somewhere, you don't even have to be a traditional dirtbird (dozens of convictions) for things to go very wrong in an instant.

Issue is, why is a knife your choice of weapon?

As a teenager I carried a letherman multi tool with me most days, using it on any person or for that matter any living thing never ever crossed my mind in all those years. I guess some people are wired a different way.

Using drink as any kind of excuse isn't good enough, we all have a personal responsibility and that includes what you do when drinking.

Chaos Tourist

I know the thread is knife crime but if a golf club or bottle etc was used would it make much of a difference? Drink and drugs and the heat of the moment + possible self defence or your hazy interpretation at the time.. stuff happens.

Feisar

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

I know the thread is knife crime but if a golf club or bottle etc was used would it make much of a difference? Drink and drugs and the heat of the moment + possible self defence or your hazy interpretation at the time.. stuff happens.

Is the trend of drinking at home part of the equation do you think?

One_Of_Shanks

hurler32 wrote: »

The judges have a lot to answer for normally having give the murderer dozens of chances in the past

The knives are out for the poor Judges

Bob Harris

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

The knives are out for the poor Judges

..says the fella with 'shank' in his username

jester77

There is only one solution.

They should relax the sale of guns, this would reduce knife murders.

Wanderer78

jester77 wrote:

They should relax the sale of guns, this would reduce knife murders.

...and most importantly, change our Constitution to reflect this new found 'freedom'

whisky_galore

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

I know the thread is knife crime but if a golf club or bottle etc was used would it make much of a difference? Drink and drugs and the heat of the moment + possible self defence or your hazy interpretation at the time.. stuff happens.

Golf clubs are a bit hard to conceal.

You have to be a special sort of scumbag to carry a knife with you going out to pubs/clubs.

Wheeliebin30

hurler32 wrote: »

There seems to be a couple every week at this stage , doesn’t seem to matter where you are Dunleer, Mallow , Cahirciveen .... Dunmore East in Waterford last night ....someone looks at you sideways and you stab them to death☹️

The judges have a lot to answer for normally having give the murderer dozens of chances in the past plus Fine Gaels policy of closing virtually all rural Garda stations means scumbags can start intimidating their local communities from an early age without any fear of the law and progress to stabbing someone to death without any cares .

Yeah there was no stabbings before FG closed garda stations alright.

hurler32

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Yeah there was no stabbings before FG closed garda stations alright.

There’s been a huge increase ....having no garda stations in many towns leads to scumbags been able to get used to getting away with smaller crimes before they advance to doing whatever they want .....

Wheeliebin30

hurler32 wrote: »

There’s been a huge increase ....having no garda stations in many towns leads to scumbags been able to get used to getting away with smaller crimes before they advance to doing whatever they want .....

Has there?

Any links to the stats to support this?

beertons

Were they all making sambo's and suddenly run into someone?

Chaos Tourist

whisky_galore wrote: »

Golf clubs are a bit hard to conceal.

You have to be a special sort of scumbag to carry a knife with you going out to pubs/clubs.

Carrying knifes into pubs is poor form indeed.

If you're out on the town and the car is parked nearby -- the hurley or other sporting equipment is sometimes left in the boot. You don't necessarily have to walk back into the pub.

whisky_galore

Another one. 17 y/o stabbed a 25 y/o who died afterwards.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-25-dies-after-stabbing-in-waterford-857828.html

valoren

whisky_galore wrote: »

Golf clubs are a bit hard to conceal.

You have to be a special sort of scumbag to carry a knife with you going out to pubs/clubs.

Guard: And how many times did you hit the intruder?
Me: Put me down for a four.

Chaos Tourist

Feisar wrote: »

Is the trend of drinking at home part of the equation do you think?

Hasn't there been an increase in that type of crime? Knife attacks at home. Just scanned some headlines earlier.

Wheeliebin30

whisky_galore wrote: »

Another one. 17 y/o stabbed a 25 y/o who died afterwards.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-25-dies-after-stabbing-in-waterford-857828.html

Mentioned in the op

dxhound2005

hurler32 wrote: »

There’s been a huge increase ....having no garda stations in many towns leads to scumbags been able to get used to getting away with smaller crimes before they advance to doing whatever they want .....

It's not much use having Garda stations if there is nobody in them.

98 of the 100 stations that were earmarked for closure over the course of the year are only open on a part-time basis, with 88 served by only one garda. 94 of the stations were ordinarily open for three hours a day or less.

Chaos Tourist

Cabaal wrote: »

Issue is, why is a knife your choice of weapon?

As a teenager I carried a letherman multi tool with me most days, using it on any person or for that matter any living thing never ever crossed my mind in all those years. I guess some people are wired a different way.

Using drink as any kind of excuse isn't good enough, we all have a personal responsibility and that includes what you do when drinking.

Whether in their mind it's self-defence or just badness, in the moment, all these noble ideas of responsibility go straight out the window. And it will still happen.