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Pregnancy scare?

  • 25-07-2018 8:59pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭


    Now this may seem like a silly post to some but I'm just wondering if I should be worried about a possible pregnancy scare.
    I suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder which is probably causing the problem but I'll explain it as best possible.

    Went on a date with this woman and long story short we ended getting frisky. I had no condom with me and she isn't on birth control so I knew I wasn't going to have intercourse with her.
    We were both naked and just kissing and masturbating each other. I was on top of her and she was on top of me while naked so my erect penis has come into contact with her vagina area and but briefly at times and I also fingered her vagina.
    I didn't ejaculate because I had masturbated myself earlier and I can't remember any pre cum either.

    My worry is that there could be some semen on my penis from earlier in the day and it may have come into contact with her vagina area. And also I fingered her after touching my own penis. Now I don't think there was any pre cum involved but my OCD makes me doubt things and I'm quite scared now.

    I know I should have used a condom but this was my first time doing this and I didn't think I needed a condom if I wasnt going to ejaculate inside her.

    I spoke to the woman in question and she was very lovely about it and she said I had nothing to be worried about as she was sure none of my semen entered her and she would be panicking herself if she thought it had.

    What do people think I should do?

    Thanks for reading.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Even if there was any sperm left it dies after about half an hour or so post ejaculation so you're grand.

    Buy a pack of condoms and keep them in your wallet, it's better to be safe than sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Even if there was any sperm left it does after about half an hour or so post ejaculation so you're grand.

    Buy a pack of condoms and keep them in your wallet, it's better to be safe than sorry.

    Thank you for your reply.
    Will definitely be purchasing some condoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    Now this may seem like a silly post to some but I'm just wondering if I should be worried about a possible pregnancy scare.
    I suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder which is probably causing the problem but I'll explain it as best possible.

    Went on a date with this woman and long story short we ended getting frisky. I had no condom with me and she isn't on birth control so I knew I wasn't going to have intercourse with her.
    We were both naked and just kissing and masturbating each other. I was on top of her and she was on top of me while naked so my erect penis has come into contact with her vagina area and but briefly at times and I also fingered her vagina.
    I didn't ejaculate because I had masturbated myself earlier and I can't remember any pre cum either.

    My worry is that there could be some semen on my penis from earlier in the day and it may have come into contact with her vagina area. And also I fingered her after touching my own penis. Now I don't think there was any pre cum involved but my OCD makes me doubt things and I'm quite scared now.

    I know I should have used a condom but this was my first time doing this and I didn't think I needed a condom if I wasnt going to ejaculate inside her.

    I spoke to the woman in question and she was very lovely about it and she said I had nothing to be worried about as she was sure none of my semen entered her and she would be panicking herself if she thought it had.

    What do people think I should do?

    Thanks for reading.

    Common sense would say unlikely.
    You will know for sure within the month.
    These things happen all the time.
    To save yourself all the worry ...you know
    What you should do. Wish you the best.
    Hope all will be OK I'm sure it will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Do nothing. Why worry about something that hasn't happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    Thank for the replies.

    The woman in question isn't on any birth control and shes not gonna take the morning after pill as she says there is no need for it.
    I would never put pressure on her to do that but I also would like her to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Thank for the replies.

    The woman in question isn't on any birth control and shes not gonna take the morning after pill as she says there is no need for it.
    I would never put pressure on her to do that but I also would like her to.

    Please research side affects of the morning after pill, and then research the probability of pregnancy from non penetrative non ejaculation foreplay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Please research side affects of the morning after pill, and then research the probability of pregnancy from non penetrative non ejaculation foreplay.

    Tbh if she's content that there's nothing to worry about, I probably shouldn't be worrying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Tbh if she's content that there's nothing to worry about, I probably shouldn't be worrying.

    Probably not!

    Are you getting treatment for your OCD?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    You shouldn't be worrying.

    It's very, very unlikely she will have conceived from what you've described. You're more at risk of an STD tbh but that's also unlikely - but a lesson to carry condoms. The lady concerned isn't worried about it, so you shouldn't either... but as you say you have OCD and you're probably running every scenario through your head, so lets look at it in more detail:

    Sperm die once the semen has dried. Any sperm that would have been on your lad from when you masturbated were left high and dry and were long since passed away from this mortal realm before you started business with this lady. So you can stop worrying about any live sperm being left on your lad.

    Preejaculate does contain sperm, but the volume of sperm per ml of preejaculate fluid is much lower than in fresh seminal fluid and they tend to be older and of poorer "quality" than young frisky sperm who have come straight from your testicles, so even if you were inside her briefly it's extremely unlikely that she will have conceived.

    Googling it will give lots of different figures, but on average, a healthy male will produce, on average, around 200-300 million sperm per ejaculation. This amount of sperm is necessary, in reproductive terms, to ensure that an egg will be fertilised because of the economy of scale involved - the sperm are obviously tiny and have to find an egg (much bigger than they are but still microscopic) inside an area which is vast when you consider how small they are. The environment they have to navigate once inside a woman's body is also acidic and hostile to sperm, since they are foreign cells. So a few low quality, low motility, knackered sperm are extremely unlikely to locate and fertilise an ovum. It can happen. But it's very, very unlikely in your case.

    Look at it this way: men who suffer from fertility problems do not typically suffer from a lack of sperm, but a low sperm count. The lower the count, the less likely it will be for any of those sperm to find an egg, meaning the couple have difficulty conceiving to the point where they need fertility treatment. So it is very unlikely that your preejaculate sperm would be any luckier.

    It's all academic though - the lady isn't concerned, so neither should you be. I would take your current anxiousness about it as a lesson to carry condoms in future, then you won't need to worry about whether or not she is on the pill. Even if she were on the pill that won't stop you getting an STD, so put some condoms in your wallet and enjoy yourself without the risk!

    Hope that's of some help anyway :) x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Probably not!

    Are you getting treatment for your OCD?

    I am and tbh if I wasnt I'd probably be worse now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    You shouldn't be worrying.

    It's very, very unlikely she will have conceived from what you've described. You're more at risk of an STD tbh but that's also unlikely - but a lesson to carry condoms. The lady concerned isn't worried about it, so you shouldn't either... but as you say you have OCD and you're probably running every scenario through your head, so lets look at it in more detail:

    Sperm die once the semen has dried. Any sperm that would have been on your lad from when you masturbated were left high and dry and were long since passed away from this mortal realm before you started business with this lady. So you can stop worrying about any live sperm being left on your lad.

    Preejaculate does contain sperm, but the volume of sperm per ml of preejaculate fluid is much lower than in fresh seminal fluid and they tend to be older and of poorer "quality" than young frisky sperm who have come straight from your testicles, so even if you were inside her briefly it's extremely unlikely that she will have conceived.

    Googling it will give lots of different figures, but on average, a healthy male will produce, on average, around 200-300 million sperm per ejaculation. This amount of sperm is necessary, in reproductive terms, to ensure that an egg will be fertilised because of the economy of scale involved - the sperm are obviously tiny and have to find an egg (much bigger than they are but still microscopic) inside an area which is vast when you consider how small they are. The environment they have to navigate once inside a woman's body is also acidic and hostile to sperm, since they are foreign cells. So a few low quality, low motility, knackered sperm are extremely unlikely to locate and fertilise an ovum. It can happen. But it's very, very unlikely in your case.

    Look at it this way: men who suffer from fertility problems do not typically suffer from a lack of sperm, but a low sperm count. The lower the count, the less likely it will be for any of those sperm to find an egg, meaning the couple have difficulty conceiving to the point where they need fertility treatment. So it is very unlikely that your preejaculate sperm would be any luckier.

    It's all academic though - the lady isn't concerned, so neither should you be. I would take your current anxiousness about it as a lesson to carry condoms in future, then you won't need to worry about whether or not she is on the pill. Even if she were on the pill that won't stop you getting an STD, so put some condoms in your wallet and enjoy yourself without the risk!

    Hope that's of some help anyway :) x
    Thank you very much for taking the time to write that post. I really appreciate it. My penis was only near her vagina a few times and it was only a passing motion. I didn't focus on her vagina at any time with my penis and didnt go close to being inside her.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Thank you very much for taking the time to write that post. I really appreciate it. My penis was only near her vagina a few times and it was only a passing motion. I didn't focus on her vagina at any time with my penis and didnt go close to being inside her.

    Then she's not pregnant. She can't be.

    So relax :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    Then she's not pregnant. She can't be.

    So relax :)

    Thanks again. As I said, a lot is probably my OCD thinking any contact with my penis will cause conception etc.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Thanks again. As I said, a lot is probably my OCD thinking any contact with my penis will cause conception etc.

    It probably is, but even if you didn't have OCD it would easily play on your mind. Most guys think their penis is a magic wand anyway so it's not all to do with OCD, plenty of guys worry about this after the fact.

    Sorry if this is graphic, but - the chances of a pregnancy occurring from sperm, in preejaculate fluid, transferred from your penis, to your fingers, to her vagina, is very, very small, infinitesimally small. She is not pregnant. But you can still transmit an STD this way, so you should always wear a condom if you're going to do the underpants charleston with someone. (not to lecture you or anything, sorry).

    Carry condoms and save yourself the worry :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Hi Op

    i dont know why you didn't bring contraception.

    i know when i was with the first couple of girlfriends, i still found it very embarrassing to ask for condoms in a chemist. But i just told myself if you think your mature enough to be having sex & fooling round, then your mature enough to swallow that embarrassment & ask for contraception!

    So if it was embarrassment that caused you to be caught without a condom, look at the scare you have had, and ask yourself, would a momentary embarrassment not be worth it to protect both yourself and your partner from the worry of pregnancy and STD's ?
    If you were just badly prepared, be better prepared next time :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    Hi Op

    i dont know why you didn't bring contraception.

    i know when i was with the first couple of girlfriends, i still found it very embarrassing to ask for condoms in a chemist. But i just told myself if you think your mature enough to be having sex & fooling round, then your mature enough to swallow that embarrassment & ask for contraception!

    So if it was embarrassment that caused you to be caught without a condom, look at the scare you have had, and ask yourself, would a momentary embarrassment not be worth it to protect both yourself and your partner from the worry of pregnancy and STD's ?
    If you were just badly prepared, be better prepared next time :)

    The reason I didn't have condoms was simply because I hadn't planned on doing what we done. I've never had foreplay like that and only realised after that I should have had a condom on. My naive self thought as long as I didn't penetrate her, it would be ok. The woman I was with was recently tested and is fine and I have never been with anyone before. But I will definitely be more careful next time now that i know what to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    Thanks everyone for the replies.
    Feel more relaxed about the situation as it is very very unlikely I have anything to worry about but could I get some tips for future references to prevent pregnancy and STD/STI scares?
    For example, I would like to meet her again and I know to wear a condom at all times but what else? She has been tested and has said she is clean, I'm a virgin and most likely clean.
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Red Lightning


    She ended up being 6 days late which caused absolute panic for a few days but she done a pregnancy test and it came back negative and the following day she got her period.
    Thanks everyone for the advice. Safe to say, I will never put myself in that situation again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Ghekko


    She ended up being 6 days late which caused absolute panic for a few days but she done a pregnancy test and it came back negative and the following day she got her period.
    Thanks everyone for the advice. Safe to say, I will never put myself in that situation again.

    The worry of a possible pregnancy may have caused her to be late. Have a jumbo box of condoms on your person at all times from now on :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Ghekko wrote: »
    The worry of a possible pregnancy may have caused her to be late. Have a jumbo box of condoms on your person at all times from now on :D

    Its EXTREMELY common!! The word pregnancy used to make me late :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Stress can definitely delay things and if you're not birth control, things don't necessarily work like clock work either.


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