MArrying someone from Northern Ireland

Geimhreadh

Hey all,
My fiancee is from up North and we are hoping to get married in Dublin or Meth.
I have been looking at the government websites but cannot find a clear answer as to what documentation she would need to provide to the registrar.
Anyone been through similar and know what we need to have sorted before organising the date?

Geimhreadh

Nice one, thanks for clearing that up s quickly. 
We'll get the apostille stamp process started.
Can I user anything else instead of a passport?

Mollyb60

Slightly different situation but I married a guy from NI in Belfast a few years back. I didn't need anything special for the registrar to be able to get the marriage licence up here. I'm not sure why it would be different the other way around.

ax530

my husband did not need any special stamps on documentation.

Peregrinus

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Slightly different situation but I married a guy from NI in Belfast a few years back. I didn't need anything special for the registrar to be able to get the marriage licence up here. I'm not sure why it would be different the other way around.

Because the UK and the Republic of Ireland are independent countries and can have different laws. That's pretty much the point of independence, really.

Mollyb60

Peregrinus wrote: »

Because the UK and the Republic of Ireland are independent countries and can have different laws. That's pretty much the point of independence, really.

Not quite sure what the point of your post was there Peregrinus. Had you something useful to add to the OP's question?

I live in Belfast, I understand what the Republic of Ireland is, thanks. I was just pointing out that I didn't need any special stamps or permission to get married in a registry office in Belfast. And seeing as how the Irish constitution states that anyone born on the island of Ireland is entitled to be considered Irish, I don't see why there should be special stamps required.

Peregrinus

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Not quite sure what the point of your post was there Peregrinus. Had you something useful to add to the OP's question?

I live in Belfast, I understand what the Republic of Ireland is, thanks. I was just pointing out that I didn't need any special stamps or permission to get married in a registry office in Belfast. And seeing as how the Irish constitution states that anyone born on the island of Ireland is entitled to be considered Irish, I don't see why there should be special stamps required.

Because when it comes to official documents, what matters is not who the documents relate to, but who issued the documents. The practice in Ireland is that documents issued by foreign governments need to be confirmed by an apostille stamp. There is no exception where the foreign government happens to be the UK.

Anyone born in Belfast is entitled to be an Irish citizen. But the evidence that the person offers to show that they were born in Belfast is a birth cert issued by the UK government, which is a foreign government. So an apostille is required.

There is a slight difference in the UK where, under the Ireland Act 1949, Ireland is not considered to be a "foreign country" in the UK. Broadly speaking, UK law divides the rest of the world into three areas - (a)Commonwealth countries, (b) foreign countries and (c) Ireland, which is in a class all of its own. One of the consequences of this is that Irish documents generally do not need to be apostilled for use in the UK. It's a legacy of empire, if you like.

Irish law makes no corresponding division of the rest of the world in this way. As far as Irish law is concerned, a foreign government is a foreign government, and the UK government is a foreign government.

Which is why a UK birth cert needs to be apostilled for use in Ireland (even if it's the birth cert of an Irish citizen) but an Irish birth cert does not need to be apostilled for use in the UK.

Shaque attack

Lawyered

Peregrinus

Shaque attack wrote: »

Lawyered

Well, yes, but in my defence, Mollyb60 did ask why the situation was different in RoI and UK, and a correct answer to that question has to refer to the law of the two places.

Third_Echelon

OSI wrote: »

Passport and Birth Certificate the same as you. Only difference is her Birth Certificate needs an apostille stamp from the Legalisation office in the UK. Info here: https://www.gov.uk/get-document-legalised

Yeah, I had to get that done. Was painless enough. Got it back in a few weeks.