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Teaching abroad without being dipped?

  • 23-07-2018 4:31pm
    #1
    RoversRudie
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    I'm due to commence the Primary PME this September, but having read articles in the Irish Times in recent days about pupil numbers being set to decline in Primary Schools over the next few years, it seems I might have to look abroad for work once/if I graduate thus raising the question - can you teach in the likes of England and Scotland without doing your dip here first?


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  • #2
    evolving_doors
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    RoversRudie wrote: »
    I'm due to commence the Primary PME this September, but having read articles in the Irish Times in recent days about pupil numbers being set to decline in Primary Schools over the next few years, it seems I might have to look abroad for work once/if I graduate thus raising the question - can you teach in the likes of England and Scotland without doing your dip here first?

    How do you mean? just with a general degree?


  • #3
    Postgrad10
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    Primary teachers have to do an probationary period where they are inspected ( called a dip) after they have their teaching qualification done. So extra inspections.


  • #4
    coffeelover
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    I'm also wondering about this. I'm due to start the PME in primary teaching in September too and had planned on going to Australia or New Zealand when I finish but I'm wondering would I have to do the dip first ?


  • #5
    RoversRudie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭RoversRudie


    evolving_doors wrote: »
    How do you mean? just with a general degree?

    No, I mean if I did the PME would I be able to teach abroad once I graduate or would I have to do the dip (compulsory probationary period Postgrad10 refers to below) first?


  • #6
    Cash_Q
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    coffeelover wrote:
    I'm also wondering about this. I'm due to start the PME in primary teaching in September too and had planned on going to Australia or New Zealand when I finish but I'm wondering would I have to do the dip first ?

    RoversRudie wrote:
    I'm due to commence the Primary PME this September, but having read articles in the Irish Times in recent days about pupil numbers being set to decline in Primary Schools over the next few years, it seems I might have to look abroad for work once/if I graduate thus raising the question - can you teach in the likes of England and Scotland without doing your dip here first?

    I would do anything in your power to get the dip done before you go anywhere. You never know how rules with the TC can change. I teach in a special school and broke my back getting 50 days of the dip done at the first opportunity I could; the following school year the TC changed the rules and probation/dip could no longer be done by teachers in a special school in the traditional manner with the Inspectorate, so I had to undertake Droichead. There was an industrial action taken by the INTO against participating with Droichead so I was locked out of probation for that year. I finally got it done this year, but it can't be done in 'halves' like the traditional way, so I wasted my time doing the 50 days with the Inspectorate because I had to do the full Droichead process anyway.

    Sure, that experience stood to me...but really, who would undertake half their dip for no reason - ask anyone who's done it and they'll tell you they wouldn't.

    The key is to get subbing in a few schools, principals could be sitting on temporary contracts but want to get a feel for staff before hiring. If you prove yourself when subbing, you never know what kind of contracts can 'crop up'


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