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Overcrowding

  • 21-07-2018 11:15pm
    #1
    Prominent_Dawg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭


    Just curious why overcrowding on trains is allowed although not allowed on most buses, was traveling on the train from Dublin to Galway today and the entire train was overcrowded with people everywhere, I imagine had an accident occurred traveling at 160 km/h the impact on those standing would be much greater.. or in a situation of evacuation it would be a nightmare to get out with people, suitcases, buggies, trollies everywhere, witnessed a number of people missing there stops as they couldn’t get out in time, should the fare we pay not provide a service thats comfortable or at its least safe


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  • #2
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    It's quite simple there is nothing to stop train passengers getting on unlike a bus a driver can stop extra passengers getting off but this is obviously impossible on a train also a train driver has to stop at every stop in order to let people off a bus driver can go past a stop if no ones pressed the bell.

    I've been on buses on the continent which were packed well beyond the legal but the bus had three doors so the driver couldn't stop people getting on at the rear doors.


  • #3
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Chance of a crash is infinitely smaller on a train


  • #4
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Don’t see how the impact on those standing if there was a train crash would be any different to those sitting given there’s no seat belts.


  • #5
    tabbey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Prominent_Dawg wrote: »
    Just curious why overcrowding on trains is allowed although not allowed on most buses

    The capacity on a train is based on weight, rather than comfort. If 200 passengers on a rail vehicle can travel on a railway without derailing, then that is OK from a safety point of view.

    Personally I find crush load standing on DART both uncomfortable and degrading. It may be acceptable for 10 minutes, but not for outer suburban services. There should be suitable stock provided for people coming from Bray and especially Greystones, with more seats and less standing space.

    As for mainline services, standing is very rare, usually summer weekends, especially when events are taking place.
    Once upon a time, that is for 150 years, railway operators maintained older stock for use during busy times.
    Unfortunately the current philosophy is to scrap vehicles, even in the prime of their lives. The Mk III would have been very useful if they had been kept.


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