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rough cost of getting lime spread

  • 17-07-2018 11:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭


    Looking to get about 6t per ha out on fields that are very peaty.want to try and correct ph now as I try to make most of it. Any idea how much this may cost all in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 moss house


    Be jasus it’ll cost ye a good bit lad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    I've about 12 acres to do at that rate so maybe 30 tonne. In total. If it was very expensive I'd try breaking it out a bit. Over the next few years. But every bit would help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    €24 a ton delivered and spread a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Justjens wrote: »
    €24 a ton delivered and spread a few weeks ago.

    Depending on your area that wouldn't be the cheapest. Most like suppliers operate like this with an all inclusive price. Close to the quarries you might get it a couple of Euro cheaper per tonne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    Buy inclusive of spreading. No vat. If you buy it dumped and get a contractor to spread, you will pay vat on the contractor charge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Looking to get about 6t per ha out on fields that are very peaty.want to try and correct ph now as I try to make most of it. Any idea how much this may cost all in?

    Don’t spread all 6t at once. Advice is 2t per year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,207 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    ganmo wrote: »
    Don’t spread all 6t at once. Advice is 2t per year

    Isn't that 2t per acre? Op said per hectare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭degetme


    Justjens wrote: »
    €24 a ton delivered and spread a few weeks ago.

    Is this lime out of roadstone in mallow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Teagasc say that you can spread up to 3 tonne /acre. But I think 2 tonne/acre is enough. You're not just changing the PH of the soil but the make up of the soil itself. Diffferent microbes will thrive better etc with the raised PH, so changes will be slow over a few years.
    €25 spread here in east Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Isn't that 2t per acre? Op said per hectare

    how right ya are
    2t/a is 4.8t/ha

    6t/ha would be 2.5t/a and that'd be grand to spread


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    €24/tonne delivered and spread here too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    24 a ton here too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭rushvalley


    Teagasc say that you can spread up to 3 tonne /acre. But I think 2 tonne/acre is enough. You're not just changing the PH of the soil but the make up of the soil itself. Diffferent microbes will thrive better etc with the raised PH, so changes will be slow over a few years.
    €25 spread here in east Clare.

    McGrath's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    rushvalley wrote: »
    McGrath's?
    Ya, think it was actually 24. Last year too.
    I only got 20t but neighbours got a few loads too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    degetme wrote: »
    Is this lime out of roadstone in mallow

    McGrath's O'Callaghan Mills delivered to close to their depot in Herbertstown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Looking to get about 6t per ha out on fields that are very peaty.want to try and correct ph now as I try to make most of it. Any idea how much this may cost all in?


    That may be too high an amount to spread on peaty soil.
    Peaty soil, (unlike "ordinary soil"), does not suit too heavy a coat of lime.
    If you have not already check it out, it may be wise to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    I have heard that but can't find any reference to it online. Except peaty soils ph of 5.5

    So I'm not sure what to put on it now. It required 13.5 t per ha. So was thinking 5 or 6 t to ha but maybe not. Haven't ordered yet so bit more research


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Jimbo789


    Where would be the best place to get lime in south midlands area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,332 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Jimbo789 wrote: »
    Where would be the best place to get lime in south midlands area?

    A friend is spreading from Loughnans in Birr...are you near there

    https://www.donedeal.ie/fertilisers-for-sale/lime-amp-aerating/17952700


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Jimbo789


    wrangler wrote: »
    A friend is spreading from Loughnans in Birr...are you near there

    https://www.donedeal.ie/fertilisers-for-sale/lime-amp-aerating/17952700

    Not too far from there. The ad looks good. Does the quality of the lime from different quarries vary much or would they be of similar quality once they are approved by the department. I see Loughnane’s are part of the Grolime group.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,332 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Jimbo789 wrote: »
    Not too far from there. The ad looks good. Does the quality of the lime from different quarries vary much or would they be of similar quality once they are approved by the department. I see Loughnane’s are part of the Grolime group.

    He usually needs the farmer to load it, I'm sure Loughnanes would have a contractor that would do the complete job too if you were unable to load it.
    Lime is heavy and that spreader is high so you don't overload the bucket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    I have heard that but can't find any reference to it online. Except peaty soils ph of 5.5

    So I'm not sure what to put on it now. It required 13.5 t per ha. So was thinking 5 or 6 t to ha but maybe not. Haven't ordered yet so bit more research


    I also remember reading some years ago the need to put less lime on peaty soil, , but like you I cannot now find any information of much help online.
    Teagasc has some info. on their website but it is of limited value.
    You may have read the info that they provide but if not the following are the site details:


    www.teagasc.ie/media/website/publications/2016/Advice-on-Liming-Leaflet.pdf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    I also remember reading some years ago the need to put less lime on peaty soil, , but like you I cannot now find any information of much help online.
    Teagasc has some info. on their website but it is of limited value.
    You may have read the info that they provide but if not the following are the site details:


    www.teagasc.ie/media/website/publications/2016/Advice-on-Liming-Leaflet.pdf.

    peaty soil has a high buffer capacity meaning you need more lime to alter the PH than on clay soil, there are peaty soils where there is no benefit to spreading lime but I'm assuming ops soil is not of that type


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Oh!! Don't know the buffer capacity of it. How can I find this out?

    I have put gram lime out in some if it and found a good response last year so assuming that it will all need some


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭orchard farm


    ganmo wrote: »
    peaty soil has a high buffer capacity meaning you need more lime to alter the PH than on clay soil, there are peaty soils where there is no benefit to spreading lime but I'm assuming ops soil is not of that type

    Here in northwest 1tonn an acre is recommended anymore than that and ground goes to sh1#e.A little and often is our approach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    get a soil sample done, it'll tell ya the buffer capacity, lime requirement and p & k indexes

    https://www.teagasc.ie/crops/soil--soil-fertility/soil-analysis/ this will help ya read the results but €25 is expensive IAS labs in Carlow should be able to give ya a better price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    I have results from 2016. Not much fert gone on it and the majority if it got no lime since.
    Lime requirement 13.75 t/ha
    Ph 4.89
    Index 4 for k
    Index 2 for p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    strange that they didn't give you it on the results page
    they'd have to take it into account when calculating the lime requirement.


    anyway with a ph of 5 you're gonna see a result from any amount of lime spread


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