Form 12 every year whilst PAYE only

Call me Al

We got a request for a 2017 form 12 this morning. We are PAYE income household. Nothing extra. When I called to ask why we are getting this the lady says random selection. So by some magical probability we have been randomly selected every year since the one year, 2011, when my husband was contracting to fill out this form or it's equivalent.

How can I get these requests to stop? When I call them every year for the past 3 years, I get a blanket no, its random selection.

Malayalam

Even after I fill in and send back my Form 12 every year I get a few more randomly in the post over the course of the next several months. They must be like beer coasters up there, they just fling loads of 'em out on the tables whenever they're going past Ignore them unless revenue are actually banging on the front door is my policy.

Edit - mine is Form 11, they still send multiple copies, I still ignore the extra ones

CIARAN_BOYLE

What is your career. There are certain fields revenue target with form 12s.

honeybear

Call me Al wrote: »

We got a request for a 2017 form 12 this morning. We are PAYE income household. Nothing extra. When I called to ask why we are getting this the lady says random selection. So by some magical probability we have been randomly selected every year since the one year, 2011, when my husband was contracting to fill out this form or it's equivalent.

How can I get these requests to stop? When I call them every year for the past 3 years, I get a blanket no, its random selection.

I got one yesterday-I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the Revenue letter. Filled it out online-very straightforward.

Call me Al

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

What is your career. There are certain fields revenue target with form 12s.

Consultancy type field. All legitimately processed through PAYE in a fairly large well-established/considered Irish firm.

Call me Al

honeybear wrote: »

I got one yesterday-I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the Revenue letter. Filled it out online-very straightforward.

I wouldn't mind if it was a one-off but it's every single year. And then to tell me then that it's random selection every single year.
Because that's so likely.

Call me Al

This is from Revenue's own website:

Do PAYE taxpayers need to submit a tax return?
You are not obliged to file a tax return unless requested to do so by Revenue. We may request a return where:

your income consists solely of income taxed under the PAYE system, for example a salary or a private pension
and
you have:
a taxable non-PAYE income of €5,000 or less (where the gross non-PAYE income is €30,000 or less)
and
requested Revenue to reduce your annual PAYE tax credits and rate band entitlements so that the tax due on your non-PAYE income is deducted by your employer or pension provider

CIARAN_BOYLE

Call me Al wrote: »

Consultancy type field. All legitimately processed through PAYE in a fairly large well-established/considered Irish firm.

Consultants are considered likely to have extra income therefore 99.99% of certain types of consultants are randomly selected for a tax return each year.

At least thats what i suspect.

Teachers can have a very high rate of random selection as well.

Turnipman

Call me Al wrote: »

We got a request for a 2017 form 12 this morning. We are PAYE income household. Nothing extra. When I called to ask why we are getting this the lady says random selection. So by some magical probability we have been randomly selected every year since the one year, 2011, when my husband was contracting to fill out this form or it's equivalent.

How can I get these requests to stop? When I call them every year for the past 3 years, I get a blanket no, its random selection.

So why not simply fill it in and send it back? It only takes about 20 minutes and presumably you've some Medical Expenses to claim back anyway?

I do mine - from choice - every year online to get my tax refund as quickly as possible!

Call me Al

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Consultants are considered likely to have extra income therefore 99.99% of certain types of consultants are randomly selected for a tax return each year.

At least thats what i suspect.

Teachers can have a very high rate of random selection as well.

Thanks Ciaran..

Hes not a consultant. But that is the field of business he's in. And they won't know what he does in the business. Unless they're targeting based on salary or something.

And if they're targeting certain professions then the "it's random selection" replies I'm consistently getting are complete b.s.

gerrybbadd

Have you an additional income?
Have you significant savings giving rise to large interest payments?

There are also certain tax credits claimable that give rise to the issuing of a Form 12 annually, such as the Rural Renewal relief

Call me Al

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Have you an additional income?
Have you significant savings giving rise to large interest payments?

There are also certain tax credits claimable that give rise to the issuing of a Form 12 annually, such as the Rural Renewal relief

No. Nothing extra. . Just a single income PAYE household. No savings of consequence to trigger something like this.
Home carers tax credit claimed so nothing funky. Unless that is it.. ?
He was contracting in his field of work years (maybe 9 or 10) ago. It's been ongoing since despite being only PAYE ever since, and talking to them annually about the fact that I shouldn't be obliged to complete this form 12.
I've sent a query into them via their online system, so hopefully they'll tell me why we are being written to every year about this.

scheister

Call me Al wrote: »

No. Nothing extra. . Just a single income PAYE household. No savings of consequence to trigger something like this.
Home carers tax credit claimed so nothing funky. Unless that is it.. ?
He was contracting in his field of work years (maybe 9 or 10) ago. It's been ongoing since despite being only PAYE ever since, and talking to them annually about the fact that I shouldn't be obliged to complete this form 12.
I've sent a query into them via their online system, so hopefully they'll tell me why we are being written to every year about this.

Register for my account once P35 by employer is filled completing the F12 online will less than 5 minutes. Im the same I has a small amount of other income in 2012 that was not taxed so had to file a f12 each year since.

gerrybbadd

Call me Al wrote: »

No. Nothing extra. . Just a single income PAYE household. No savings of consequence to trigger something like this.
Home carers tax credit claimed so nothing funky. Unless that is it.. ?
He was contracting in his field of work years (maybe 9 or 10) ago. It's been ongoing since despite being only PAYE ever since, and talking to them annually about the fact that I shouldn't be obliged to complete this form 12.
I've sent a query into them via their online system, so hopefully they'll tell me why we are being written to every year about this.

The fact you are getting it every year rules out the random aspect. I can't remember now if Home Carer's is one of those credits that attracts the issuing of a Form 12, it may very well be.

Wheety

Only takes a few minutes to say no extra income. Do it online, you have until October. The fact you did it once is why they're sending them. Asking them to stop sounds like you're trying to hide something :-D