how do you see yourself at 68?

techteacher

I will start by asking how you see yourself teaching in a classroom at 68?

I suppose it depends on your health but I think that age is pushing the limits. I would like to see teachers offered an option to work until they 68 but allow for some flexibility in delivering their class content.

I am currently researching options for blended learning in Sept so I have some flexibility for delivering content. There are some useful studies when using the blended model of teaching.Hopefully by the end of my career. i can mix blended content and live delivery.


There are plenty ways of creating additional revenue streams but the tax take can be quite high initially. It would be a nice idea to develop a community of practice to discuss various options for teachers as they move towards the end of career. ( Is this something you would lie to see?)


This forum has some wise contributors who have some good ideas but there are also some negative comments, as many online forums.

I will let this post sit here over the summer and please comment if you have thought of yourself teaching at 68 and would like to discuss extra revenue streams...

BorneTobyWilde

Probably will still use a mirror I would imagine.

TheDriver

On the other side of the coin, I'll be thinking how much has changed since I retired 12 years previously

rainbowtrout

Started pre 2004 so will be booted out at 65 if I'm still there at that age.

There are plenty of teachers who still teach at 65, some do it because they want to and some do it because they have to. I imagine teachers working at 68 won't be wildly different from teachers who currently work until 65.

doc_17

There was a study I heard referenced years ago about retirement in Scotland. Teachers who retired at 60 had a life expentency of 74. Teachers who retires at 65 had a life expectancy of 68. I couldn’t find any link but I always remembered that. Hopefully it was genuine!

I’m post 04 and didn’t start until 25. But I’m gone at 60. Whatever I do I won’t be teaching past that. Maybe get a job in the ETB admin section!

Drag00n79

doc_17 wrote:

There was a study I heard referenced years ago about retirement in Scotland. Teachers who retired at 60 had a life expentency of 74. Teachers who retires at 65 had a life expectancy of 68. I couldn’t find any link but I always remembered that. Hopefully it was genuine!

74 and 68 are both bleak!

Bells21

I have seen people, teachers, guards and nurses, retire in or about retirement age and end up quite ill within the first few years of their retirement. They gave so much to their jobs and settled down to enjoy their retirement but ultimately didn't get much time for enjoyment.
I looked into a private pension a few years back even though I'm not long in the job. The agent informed me that many teachers tend to retire in their 50s due to the toll the job takes on a person. That being said, I'm sure that people on the new payscale would have very little spare salary left after paying the essentials to put into a pension.

Grueller

This is not unique to teaching though. My dad is 70ish and is a farmer. From 65 on he has really de-generated. There are some people that the bodies just give up on regardless of profession. I do understand that teaching is a high stress job and when you are on it is full on. I do also understand that the statistics are not favourable for teachers and long life so please understand that this is not an attack on the profession as I am usually a defender of it.
The one thing that I think really takes its toll on people is constantly worrying about the future and retirement. I am a believer in having a plan in place and letting that plan work out over time. If it does not, so be it. Nobody in this country dies of malnutrition in their retirement. We may not be able to afford the cruise every summer and skiing every winter, but hey, in my sixties I may not want to do them either. Relax and live for now.

TheValeyard

I'll probably be an actual skull

evolving_doors

Grueller wrote: »

This is not unique to teaching though. My dad is 70ish and is a farmer. From 65 on he has really de-generated. There are some people that the bodies just give up on regardless of profession. I do understand that teaching is a high stress job and when you are on it is full on. I do also understand that the statistics are not favourable for teachers and long life so please understand that this is not an attack on the profession as I am usually a defender of it.
The one thing that I think really takes its toll on people is constantly worrying about the future and retirement. I am a believer in having a plan in place and letting that plan work out over time. If it does not, so be it. Nobody in this country dies of malnutrition in their retirement. We may not be able to afford the cruise every summer and skiing every winter, but hey, in my sixties I may not want to do them either. Relax and live for now.

Would it not be true to say that a farmer would be wayyyyy more asset rich than a teacher. At least there is an option! (Although i appreciate farmers being farmers aren't so quick to sell off a field or two).

As well as that, there's the working with teenagers, sometimes I think it keeps me sharp and lively. But other times the negative moods can wear you down. The interactive nature demands you have to be a children's entertainer 24/7 and always lit.

But I couldn't really see myself retiring in any other job. Maybe a radio dj on lyric fm droning on about some trivial tidbit.

evolving_doors

techteacher wrote: »

I will start by asking how you see yourself teaching in a classroom at 68?

I suppose it depends on your health but I think that age is pushing the limits. I would like to see teachers offered an option to work until they 68 but allow for some flexibility in delivering their class content.

I am currently researching options for blended learning in Sept so I have some flexibility for delivering content. There are some useful studies when using the blended model of teaching.Hopefully by the end of my career. i can mix blended content and live delivery.


There are plenty ways of creating additional revenue streams but the tax take can be quite high initially. It would be a nice idea to develop a community of practice to discuss various options for teachers as they move towards the end of career. ( Is this something you would lie to see?)


This forum has some wise contributors who have some good ideas but there are also some negative comments, as many online forums.

I will let this post sit here over the summer and please comment if you have thought of yourself teaching at 68 and would like to discuss extra revenue streams...

I'm intrigued as to how you would do this 'off-site'. What exactly do you mean by delivering content through blended learning?

Is this flipping the classroom?

km79

I’ll be in a beach in Spain or Portugal near my new home

Grueller

evolving_doors wrote: »

Would it not be true to say that a farmer would be wayyyyy more asset rich than a teacher. At least there is an option! (Although i appreciate farmers being farmers aren't so quick to sell off a field or two).

As well as that, there's the working with teenagers, sometimes I think it keeps me sharp and lively. But other times the negative moods can wear you down. The interactive nature demands you have to be a children's entertainer 24/7 and always lit.

But I couldn't really see myself retiring in any other job. Maybe a radio dj on lyric fm droning on about some trivial tidbit.

Absolutely they would. They are generally cash poor though believe it or not. Most don't believe it but that is another debate.
There is also the succession issue in farming. If a child is planning on carrying on the farm, which they are in most cases to be fair, the farmer does not have the opportunity to sell on the farm in parts or entirely.
This is off topic though. An accountant, trucker, retail worker, tradesperson or teacher will be shook to be fully functioning in any workplace at 68.
The main gist of my point was that we do not, in most cases require the same level of income in our 60s as we do in our 30s & 40s. A carpenter will pick and choose jobs as they age, generally avoiding heavier work, but probably on reduced oncome as a result. A teacher might job share. A trucker might reduce to holiday cover driving. All will yield reduced income, but I would plan to have reduced financial commitments at that stage too.
Please take this post as it is meant. It is not an attack on any profession or even as a comparison between professions. It is meant to point out how we may all plan for the future in our own individual ways.

pandoraj09

I definitely won't be standing in front of a group of teenagers trying to teach them. I'm out the door at 60, maybe earlier.

derb12

I actually like the thought of teaching to retirement but I hope to god that there will be some way to get out of S&S by then.

gaiscioch

Bells21 wrote: »

I have seen people, teachers, guards and nurses, retire in or about retirement age and end up quite ill within the first few years of their retirement. They gave so much to their jobs and settled down to enjoy their retirement but ultimately didn't get much time for enjoyment.
I looked into a private pension a few years back even though I'm not long in the job. The agent informed me that many teachers tend to retire in their 50s due to the toll the job takes on a person. That being said, I'm sure that people on the new payscale would have very little spare salary left after paying the essentials to put into a pension.

This. I chose to take out an AVC rather than buy back years as the financial consultant said the notional service/buying back years was less flexible and they would in effect penalise me if I left teaching earlier. It's another issue but I'd love to see statistics on what percentage of Irish teachers are retiring early, and what sorts of reasons commonly appear for doing so.

solerina

I hope to retire at 58/59 no way I will be still teaching beyond 60 either way. Not one the teacher in my school has stayed beyond 60 in recent years.

feardeas

km79 wrote:

I’ll be in a beach in Spain or Portugal near my new home

I'd hope to be alive, healthy and retired. Sept 04 entrant so I'll be for the long haul. I'll think about planning for going a little earlier than 65 in the next few years.

All going well we will be in a sunnier country, this summer excepted. Other than that I'm going to be thankful for being well enough to work until then.