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Airbnb and paying taxes, renting a room in the house where I live

  • 10-07-2018 10:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭


    I am trying to figure out how to fill the form 12 on line in order to pay taxes.
    I don't know which option I have to select there is a rental income option but I am not sure if it is the right one.
    I also don't understand what Capital Allowances mean
    Can anybody advise?
    thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    I am trying to figure out how to fill the form 12 on line in order to pay taxes.
    I don't know which option I have to select there is a rental income option but I am not sure if it is the right one.
    I also don't understand what Capital Allowances mean
    Can anybody advise?
    thanks

    Form 12 is meant for PAYE employees.

    If you're a landlord, then you'll probably need to register for ROS and complete Form 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    I am trying to figure out how to fill the form 12 on line in order to pay taxes.
    I don't know which option I have to select there is a rental income option but I am not sure if it is the right one.
    I also don't understand what Capital Allowances mean
    Can anybody advise?
    thanks

    Time for you to speak to an accountant. Airbnd income is not Case V rental income. It's case I or case IV.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/ebrief/2018/no-0592018.aspx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Squatter wrote: »
    Form 12 is meant for PAYE employees.

    If you're a landlord, then you'll probably need to register for ROS and complete Form 11.

    If it's less than €5k income I think you can use form 12 assuming you've PAYE income.
    Time for you to speak to an accountant. Airbnd income is not Case V rental income. It's case I or case IV.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/ebrief/2018/no-0592018.aspx

    There are a few accountants online with info on what to do with AirBnB revenu & tax.

    http://www.paddyquinn.ie/tax-implications-airbnb-hosts/
    https://www.taxback.com/blog/airbnb-expenses/
    https://bradyassociates.ie/blog/item/530-tax-implications-of-airbnb-hosting

    Also a bit on askaboutmoney.com

    Depending on how much you're making an accountant may/may not make sense. Although it's your responsibility to get it right so you'd want to be confident in what you're doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter



    If it's less than €5k income I think you can use form 12 assuming you've PAYE income.


    You're quite right, thanks. I hadn't realised that the Form 12 threshold was now €5,000!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/personal-finance/revenue-rule-change-eases-pressure-on-taxpayers-to-file-returns-1.3091987


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭mille100piedi


    I earn less then 4000 Euro a year, at the moment an accountant is doing this for me, but she is asking me 200 Euro I find this too expensive for the money I earn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭mille100piedi


    In the from 112 I found the following:

    Rental Income
    Trading Profit
    Deposit Interest Received
    Untaxed Income Arising in the State
    Exempt Income
    Exempt Income from Personal Injury
    Fees and Commissions
    Irish Taxed Income
    Maintenance Payments Received
    Property Relief Surcharge
    Other Lump Sum Payments
    Rent Paid to Non-Resident Landlord
    Emp/Off/Pen not subject to PAYE deductions
    Withdrawal of funds from AVC
    Lump Sums from Relevant Pensions
    Distributions from ARFs, AMRFs & PRSAs

    I guess I have to select the rental income?I think this option is more for landlord that rent a whole house and not just a room so I am not sure it is the right one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter



    In the from 112 I found the following:

    Rental Income
    Trading Profit
    Deposit Interest Received
    Untaxed Income Arising in the State
    Exempt Income
    Exempt Income from Personal Injury
    Fees and Commissions
    Irish Taxed Income
    Maintenance Payments Received
    Property Relief Surcharge
    Other Lump Sum Payments
    Rent Paid to Non-Resident Landlord
    Emp/Off/Pen not subject to PAYE deductions
    Withdrawal of funds from AVC
    Lump Sums from Relevant Pensions
    Distributions from ARFs, AMRFs & PRSAs

    I guess I have to select the rental income?I think this option is more for landlord that rent a whole house and not just a room so I am not sure it is the right one

    I assume that the top bit should read "Form 12"?

    Are you renting a room in your house long term, in which case you'd be eligible for the rent a room relief, or are you AirBnB ing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭mille100piedi


    yes sorry I meant form 12

    I rent from September to March long term and this case it it was easy to fill the form 12 for the rent a room scheme relief
    but from March to September I only host guests for short term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 joseph_a_f


    The airbnb income is below 5K so it should be declared as trading profit as its a short term guest accomadation as opposed to renting out a whole property as a landlord.
    See info about this on bottom of webpage https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/index.aspx

    Select Trading Profit and you will be prompted to enter your gross profit and any expenses you incurred while trading as airbnb - advertising expenses etc.

    Capital allowances would not usually apply in the case of short term airbnb income. It is an allowance on the white goods (eg. cooker , fridge) or furniture purchased for the purpose of the airbnb. The revenue website have example on this. https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/what-expenses-are-allowed.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭mille100piedi


    joseph_a_f wrote: »
    The airbnb income is below 5K so it should be declared as trading profit as its a short term guest accomadation as opposed to renting out a whole property as a landlord.
    See info about this on bottom of webpage https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/index.aspx

    Select Trading Profit and you will be prompted to enter your gross profit and any expenses you incurred while trading as airbnb - advertising expenses etc.

    Capital allowances would not usually apply in the case of short term airbnb income. It is an allowance on the white goods (eg. cooker , fridge) or furniture purchased for the purpose of the airbnb. The revenue website have example on this. https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/what-expenses-are-allowed.aspx

    Thank you very much, I didn't know it was so easy, I can't believe I paid 200Euro to an accountant for many years for doing this!


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