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I cant get a job

  • 09-07-2018 4:08am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://www.indeed.co.uk/Art-Design-Teacher-jobs. There are loads of jobs in the uk.

    Voultenerring in the local arts center would be a good idea.

    Grinds for the leaving cert.

    Did you not have any part-time jobs in college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 PBR


    Although not neccesarily your ideal role keep an eye on https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/ with the economy picking up a bit there has been more recruitment to the civil and public service at a number of entry level grades. Option of career break down the line could be useful if you then want to pursue a role you'd be more interested, but could be something to get going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Take this the right way - your post is near impossible to read. If you write in a similar way for job applications, your cv will be ignored.

    Without reading the post, I would guess you'd get all the information across in less than half the words.

    More defined paragraphs and punctuation would also help.



    It works the same in job applications - the written words (CV) should be enough to give the relevant information pertaining to the position and an enticement for the employer to want to know more about you.

    A cover note should be maximum 2-3 sentences and CV, 2 pages unless its a very senior/detailed position.

    Remember, your cv is being glanced at for 15-20 seconds - and that glance either gets you in the pile for further reading or the rejection pile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭AlphaOmega1


    What part of the country are you in?
    what happens when you go for interviews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    I agree with CeilingFly, it's really hard to read that.

    If you do have a degree, you should consider going to China to teach English.

    You will make roughly EUR 2k per month and you'll be able to save half of of that. You'll make a lot more if you do private lessons on the side.

    You don't need to be able to speak Chinese.

    So you can go there for a few years, have an interesting experience, save some money, and then come back to Ireland and do your masters.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    OMM 0000 wrote: »

    If you do have a degree, you should consider going to China to teach English.

    South Korea is probably better as there's a large Irish teaching population there and excellent Irish/Korean social scene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Take this the right way - your post is near impossible to read. If you write in a similar way for job applications, your cv will be ignored.

    Without reading the post, I would guess you'd get all the information across in less than half the words.

    More defined paragraphs and punctuation would also help.



    It works the same in job applications - the written words (CV) should be enough to give the relevant information pertaining to the position and an enticement for the employer to want to know more about you.

    A cover note should be maximum 2-3 sentences and CV, 2 pages unless its a very senior/detailed position.

    Remember, your cv is being glanced at for 15-20 seconds - and that glance either gets you in the pile for further reading or the rejection pile.

    I don't think the OP considers applying for a job on the same level as a clearly emotive and frustrated plea for help. I've been here, it's incredibly cathartic to let it all out once you start to write your struggle down. You're not exactly fussy over grammar and punctuation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Am I reading this right, your nearly 30 and have never had a real paying job? That's a huge part of your problem. I don't think you need to leave the country but you do need a job right now, no matter what's on your CV if there's no actual work on it your at nothing.
    Start walking down the street and dropping in everywhere looking for the manager and handing in your CV, keep it simple nobody wants to read a load of waffle, you say your honest put it down, if you've any cash handling skills put it down, at this stage if you were a non smoker put it down, driving licence, photoshop, design skills basically anything that may be useful to an employer.
    A one page CV, gives a brief outline of you, your experience/skills and qualifications. Have your phone on and answer it when someone calls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    It's a possibility though. The OP's post is strewn with grammar and punctuation errors. While I agree that writing on boards is not the same as writing up a formal letter, it's still something that may be a problem for them. Will someone who knows how apostrophes work suddenly abandon all the rules just because they're on boards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    It's a possibility though. The OP's post is strewn with grammar and punctuation errors. While I agree that writing on boards is not the same as writing up a formal letter, it's still something that may be a problem for them. Will someone who knows how apostrophes work suddenly abandon all the rules just because they're on boards?

    You'd be amazed at how some seemingly borderline illiterate people can write Shakespeare when it matters. I have first hand experience of this natural wonder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Is there a way you can show us a copy of your CV whilst making it anonymous? I've seen it done on career forums on Reddit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    OP sorry to hear of your trouble , it sounds like a hard situation.

    As others have said, the fact that you are getting older and have no real work record would ring alarm bells for employers, even though in your case you have perfectly legitimate reasons. The reality is that an employer screening CV's would pick up on this and just reject it.

    I have two suggestions - either directly address this in your cover letter (briefly and to the point) or look at doing some volunteer work and put it on the CV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    South Korea is probably better as there's a large Irish teaching population there and excellent Irish/Korean social scene

    Better money in China, and more opportunities, also a sense of adventure... but Korea is definitely easier due to it being more civilised and western.

    You're right that there aren't many Irish in Chinese. I met only a handful during many years there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


    I came back to post after reading this earlier. As other posters will know from previous posts - I could have written your post myself. Got a creative degree, love working with people, dyslexic, introverted, couldn't get a job!

    I felt like I was trying so hard and getting nowhere, I too also had no financial support. A huge turning point for me was realising trying to apply for ANYTHING was getting me nowhere. I did take a stop gap job to get something on my CV, then a bottom of the rung job but at the bottom of the ladder I WANTED to be on and thats the key thing here! and then started working backwards figuring out what skills others had that I needed, not just training but how to write a CV, how to present yourself well, how to communicate ideas better, how to manage projects how to network - because having a qualification clearly wasn't doing anything for me and retraining alone wouldn't solve my problem. I learned a lot while in those lesser jobs, so like I said get yourself on the bottom on a ladder you want to move up.

    I would think very carefully about what you would like to be doing career wise in 10 years and go for that, you have loads of volunteering experience you have the HDip...if that's what you want go for it but you won't be able to get a foot on the ladder without sacrifice.

    For teaching jobs, a lot of people I know have to work multiple precarious contracts and keep trying until they get a perm role. I would forget about the previous pay scales and what happened with the grants and the general lack of opportunities our generation had because it will make you bitter. If you want to teach as your career you go through a rough start, but its better to do that from the ages of 30-35 then when you do get a stable role you can get your mortgage, work towards financial stability and travel whatever while doing a job you enjoy and always wanted to do or you can take any job and still be starting from here in a few years time.

    I also second the backup option of getting a public service job/temp or perm to just get something on your CV and the better work life balance will make it easier for you to take on some evening/weekend teaching and then when the time is right apply for the full time teaching role and make the switch. It might even take a few years to save up to give yourself a financial cushion for when you do switch careers but I think its time for you to get on the ladder and work towards what you want.


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