breeder wont change microchip info

eternal31

Hi guys, I have a question about microchip of pet. I plan to buy a pedigree kitten from a breeder. The breeder said the cat is micro-chipped on breeder's name and will not change in future. Is it normal? Should I ask them change to our name? Is it possible to add second owner to micro-chip?

Thanks in advance.

Graces7

eternal31 wrote: »

Hi guys, I have a question about microchip of pet. I plan to buy a pedigree kitten from a breeder. The breeder said the cat is micro-chipped on breeder's name and will not change in future. Is it normal? Should I ask them change to our name? Is it possible to add second owner to micro-chip?

Thanks in advance.

They maybe want to keep track of the cat. I know dog breeders like that. In case of problems they would be contacted. ie accident.

eternal31

Graces7 wrote: »

They maybe want to keep track of the cat. I know dog breeders like that. In case of problems they would be contacted. ie accident.

Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid it will lead to ownership dispute in future. In addition to that, if the cat has accident or gets lost, I hope I, as the owner/keeper of the cat, will be the first person getting contacted, rather than a breeder who has not met the cat for a few years.

Vojera

Can they actually stop you changing it? I'm sure if you ask your vet they can help you update it in your name.

I agree with you, on the off chance your cat escapes and is found, you should be the person to contact, not the breeder.

eternal31

Vojera wrote: »

Can they actually stop you changing it? I'm sure if you ask your vet they can help you update it in your name.

I agree with you, on the off chance your cat escapes and is found, you should be the person to contact, not the breeder.

Did a search, don't think I can change myself. They probably need to login a website with password to update the details.

Nody

eternal31 wrote: »

Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid it will lead to ownership dispute in future. In addition to that, if the cat has accident or gets lost, I hope I, as the owner/keeper of the cat, will be the first person getting contacted, rather than a breeder who has not met the cat for a few years.

But on the same line; if you abandon the cat and it gets picked up they breeder wants to ensure their cats are taken care of. Hence I can fully see the reason from a breeder who really care about their cats.

Vojera

Will vets remove chips and replace with new ones? Or would that be unnecessary stress on the animal? (I don't know how deep they go).

Has she given an explanation as to why she won't allow a name change?

Vojera

Nody wrote: »

But on the same line; if you abandon the cat and it gets picked up they breeder wants to ensure their cats are taken care of. Hence I can fully see the reason from a breeder who really care about their cats.

I understand the reasoning there, but surely breeders also accept that once an animal leaves their hands, it's not theirs anymore?


Otherwise, you're left in a position where any time you move house/change phone number, you're beholden to the breeder and have to contact them every time in case your pet is lost. And then you're trusting that if they're contacted that they'll actually get in touch with you and won't just say "Well, you lost the cat so you obviously weren't taking care of it, so I'll keep it".

eternal31

Nody wrote: »

But on the same line; if you abandon the cat and it gets picked up they breeder wants to ensure their cats are taken care of. Hence I can fully see the reason from a breeder who really care about their cats.

Partially agree. But if they decide to sell or give to someone, they need to give up something and trust new owner, right?

Graces7

Nody wrote: »

But on the same line; if you abandon the cat and it gets picked up they breeder wants to ensure their cats are taken care of. Hence I can fully see the reason from a breeder who really care about their cats.

Exactly.

Graces7

eternal31 wrote: »

Partially agree. But if they decide to sell or give to someone, they need to give up something and trust new owner, right?

With a responsible breeder also concern re the pedigree cat being used for irresponsible breeding. ie the buyer not getting it fixed.

It is about responsibility and, yes, trust.

TG1

Seems a bit unreasonable that the breeder wants to remain registered as the cats owner.
I know a family member recently adoped a dog from a rescue and they asked that they be kept on the chip as an alternative contact in case the owner couldn't be contacted which seems a much more reasonable approach.
Maybe that's a compromise you could get to with the breeder?

eternal31

TG1 wrote: »

Seems a bit unreasonable that the breeder wants to remain registered as the cats owner.
I know a family member recently adoped a dog from a rescue and they asked that they be kept on the chip as an alternative contact in case the owner couldn't be contacted which seems a much more reasonable approach.
Maybe that's a compromise you could get to with the breeder?

Ah, didn't know alternative contact can be added. I will ask breeder.

ganmo

Vojera wrote: »

Will vets remove chips and replace with new ones? Or would that be unnecessary stress on the animal? (I don't know how deep they go).

Has she given an explanation as to why she won't allow a name change?

taking the one in there would be an issue but a second one could be easily put in

Vojera

ganmo wrote: »

taking the one in there would be an issue but a second one could be easily put in

I don't know if that would be a good solution as no one is going to keep looking for a second chip once they find one. So it's a 50/50 chance which chip would be found first.



If the alternative contact idea above is possible it seems like the best solution to keep all parties happy.

convert

I was actually quite curious about this and the breeder saying that the registered owner's name wouldn't be changed.

I had a quick look into this and granted it's more related to dogs, but on Fido it states that if you are not registered as the owner it needs to be rectified:

Fido says someone else owns my dog

This is usually reported following a Chip Check. In most cases the registered previous owner is actually the breeder and the law requires a change of ownership to be performed. Sometimes the other listed owner is in fact someone else in your household, but Fido staff cannot tell from the available information so they decide that a change of ownership is needed. If it is just someone else in your household, respond to Fido to explain and you might only need a discounted Legacy registration or a simple edit (which Fido staff usually do for free). If there is a mistake due to Fido, a correction will be made and a new certificate issued at no charge. In all other cases, the legal requirement is for a full change of ownership, which usually involves Fido contacting the other owner to confirm the details. If the other owner was a pound, charity or animal welfare organisation, Fido staff will take care of the paperwork and you cover the processing fee.

The IKC also mentions that this should be done and how to go about doing it:

There is a problem that dogs which are microchipped sometimes have out of date details on the database they are recorded on. Therefore the Microchipping of Dogs Regulations 2015 requires that the certificate of registration issued by the database must be endorsed by the seller and then forwarded by the buyer to the relevant database.

The skeptic in me would be much happier to have it in my name, just in case anything did happen.

jimf

maybe ask the breeder why

it could well be they don't want you breeding from their pedigree

if this is the case would you be prepared to have the cat neutered / spayed before taking ownership in your name which should be agreed in writing with the breeder

Graces7

jimf wrote: »

maybe ask the breeder why

it could well be they don't want you breeding from their pedigree

if this is the case would you be prepared to have the cat neutered / spayed before taking ownership in your name which should be agreed in writing with the breeder

Yes.