Enniskerry to Leeson St Lower - Experience of best route?

AmandaWiclow

Would really appreciate some help. Need to travel feom Enniskerry (v near Kilmac) to Lower Leeson St.

Any advice? Private buses, buses, driving, Luas or any options really. Might have a car parking space allocated, ao perhaps this is an option? Otherwise perhaps deive to a Luas? Does anyone else so a similar route. Would really appreciate any help. Thanks v much in advance.

Stephen15

Only bus to Enniskerry is the 44 neither the quickest or most frequent route no private buses or other DB or BE routes to Enniskerry. It takes quite a long route and hits a lot of traffic so it's a slow route at peak although with the schools out it might be ok during the summer months.

The nearest Luas station is Brides Glen and the nearest DART station is Bray however parking is limited at both so Greystones where DARTs are less frequent but has a much larger car park. Best option on the Luas would be Carrickmines which has a large enough Park and Ride.

Another option which may be quicker than the bus all the way would be the 44 to Balally or Dundrum and the Luas onwards as the worst of traffic would be from Dundrum onwards I would imagine. This would save time and money parking at the Luas too.

Is cycling to a Luas stop an option however I wouldn't recommend cycling on the narrow roads around Enniskerry for cycling on for an inexpierenced cyclist. Best luas station to cycle from Enniskerry would probably be Ballyogoan Wood or a fold up bike and bring it on the bus and cycle from Dundrum onwards might even be quicker than the bus the full way due to traffic.

AmandaWiclow

Thanks v much. So helpful. Was thinking about seiving to carrickmines. Or maybe the dart to Pearse? Could drive, just not sure how challenging it will be at rush hour times. Was hoping for a private bus, maybe from Kilmac. Ce la vie!

Stephen15

AmandaWiclow wrote: »

Thanks v much. So helpful. Was thinking about seiving to carrickmines. Or maybe the dart to Pearse? Could drive, just not sure how challenging it will be at rush hour times. Was hoping for a private bus, maybe from Kilmac. Ce la vie!

If you can get to Kilmac you could get BE route 133 which is very quick. I'm not sure about the parking situation there mind you.

Losty Dublin

A 45A from Kilmac to Springfield Cemetery, then a 145 to Leeson Street is your best bet. There is a 145 that departs directly from Kilmac once a day at 7:35.

Stephen15

Losty Dublin wrote: »

A 45A from Kilmac to Springfield Cemetery, then a 145 to Leeson Street is your best bet. There is a 145 that departs directly from Kilmac once a day at 7:35.

BE route 133 skips Bray and is more or less non stop for Kilmac to the CC much quicker than any 45a/145 connection.

Cookie_Monster

20km cycle via stepaside and sandyford. 50 mins once used to it and that a really nice route tbh. bit harder on the way home though

Stephen15

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

20km cycle via stepaside and sandyford. 50 mins once used to it and that a really nice route tbh. bit harder on the way home though

Narrow roads which aren't great for cycling unless you're an experienced cyclist as an inexpierenced cyclist I certainly wouldn't cycle some of those roads. Driving a car on some of those roads doesn't feel very safe. Not very well lit for the winter months either I would advise if the OP decides to brave it to make sure they are highly visible with as much high vis gear as possible.

Cookie_Monster

Stephen15 wrote: »

Narrow roads which aren't great for cycling unless you're an experienced cyclist as an inexperienced cyclist I certainly wouldn't cycle some of those roads.

where? All the roads as far as Sandyford are big open roads and from there in is cycle lanes pretty much the whole way. Enniskerry to Sandyford is also a very well surfaced road these days

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not very well lit for the winter months either I would advise if the OP decides to brave it to make sure they are highly visible with as much high vis gear as possible.

Utterly unrequired. A decent set of lights is all that is legally and practically required and the only thing that actually makes a difference.

Stop trying to dangerise cycling. :mad:

Wishbone Ash

Stephen15 wrote: »

Narrow roads which aren't great for cycling unless you're an experienced cyclist as an inexpierenced cyclist I certainly wouldn't cycle some of those roads....

Narrow roads are generally much easier to cycle on as motorists are physically required to do a proper overtaking manoeuvre to get past. On wider roads, many motorists, faced with with oncoming traffic, will squeeze past cyclists instead of waiting for a proper opportunity. Club cyclists, and many other cyclists in groups cycle two abreast for this very reason - it makes the road narrower and thus promotes proper overtaking.

BTW - rather than being unsuitable for cycling, Enniskerry is probably the cycling capital of Ireland. I can't think of any other area which is usually thronged with cyclists.

Stephen15

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Narrow roads are generally much easier to cycle on as motorists are physically required to do a proper overtaking manoeuvre to get past. On wider roads, many motorists, faced with with oncoming traffic, will squeeze past cyclists instead of waiting for a proper opportunity. Club cyclists, and many other cyclists in groups cycle two abreast for this very reason - it makes the road narrower and thus promotes proper overtaking.

BTW - rather than being unsuitable for cycling, Enniskerry is probably the cycling capital of Ireland. I can't think of any other area which is usually thronged with cyclists.

I haven't been up there in ages but I'd a lot of the cyclists up there are expierenced cyclist looking for a hilly challenge. If your just a casual cyclist going to work and back everyday I don't think it would be good for the people who wibble and wobble and don't have the proper gear which you see all over the Dublin suburbs with no lights or high vis .

Lumen

Half an hour by motorbike when the weather is bad or in a hurry.

50 mins by bicycle otherwise.

We live in the most beautiful county in Ireland. Get out and enjoy it.

Four wheels bad, two wheels good.

Macy0161

Don't judge traffic around now anyway, if you're thinking car. No comparison to peak winter months.

Cycling wise, from Enniskerry itself, you could go ballyman road - Ferndale road - n11 in loughlinstown. From nearer kilmac, best option is the n11 to the dargle road and then either Ferndale or past shanganagh.

133 can be pretty full in the winter. Wexford bus announced a Wicklow route, not sure if it's due to stop in kilmac. If the timings worked for you, there's also the St Kevin's bus, but it's one option each way.

Luas park and ride is grand in the morning, but puts you wrong side of the merge for getting home.

AmandaWiclow

Just eanted to thank everyone for their help, lots of options here. Will look into 133, luas and driving. Will also see about the st kevins bus. Not a confident cyclist unfortuantely!

Macy0161

Another option maybe to drive and park somewhere around Foxrock/ Stillorgan on the 46a route.

Even the traditional early to early (say 8-4.30 day) isn't enough to avoid the traffic on the N11 in a car, even before the Donnybrook bottleneck. And two new sets of lights going in between RTE and Donnybrook Bus Garage.

AmandaWiclow

Just had a suggestion of 84x from southern cross. V hard to find info on how long that might take!

Stephen15

AmandaWiclow wrote: »

Just had a suggestion of 84x from southern cross. V hard to find info on how long that might take!

The 133 would be quicker as it has less stops I'm not sure how busy it is but the bus could be full by the time it gets to Kilmac as it's coach you'd be more likely to get on to an 84x at Southern Cross albeit standing.

Can you get a Taxsaver ticket through your employer?

Arcade_Tryer

Lumen wrote: »

Half an hour by motorbike when the weather is bad or in a hurry.

50 mins by bicycle otherwise.

We live in the most beautiful county in Ireland. Get out and enjoy it.

Four wheels bad, two wheels good.

Enniskerry is in Wicklow; not Kerry, Mayo, Cork, Galway or Donegal.

AmandaWiclow

Thanks. Can get tax saver ticket, will be four days a weeks so will have to do calculations to see if it’s cheaper. Anyone know how long the 84x takes from Southern Cross to Lower Leeson St? Thinking parking will work better than kilmac for 133

loyatemu

about an hour (it's been a while since I used it). 84X will be cheaper than the 133 as well.