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10m High netting behind garden wall

  • 25-06-2018 10:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    Hi All,

    The back of my house faces onto a sports field. My garden wall is 20 foot to back door.

    Came home from work one day 10m poles installed around perimeter. Less than 1m from back wall. No contact from club before install.

    Contacted club,netting to be installed, non retractable, 10m high. Communication very poor with myself and other residents since.

    No planning permission. I presume exempted development under Class 33(c).

    We’re not unreasonable people - recognize that netting is needed while games ongoing. However club doesn’t use pitch between Oct-Feb and for most of the week.

    Would also have liked to discuss the option of retractable netting as a fair solution to all. Netting at that height so close to house is imposing.

    I’m asking for peoples opinions please.

    Is there another solution? Do we approach council? How? Some advice?

    Thanks,
    NN


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Doop


    Could you and the neighbors band together and appoint a Planning Consultant / Building Surveyor?

    Failing that put a call into the council and see what they advise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    Thanks for the reply Doop.

    Yes, ,we intend to contact the council.

    If we hire a planning consultant what are we asking? Is it exempted development?

    Does Class 33(c) allow them to do whatever they like?

    Sorry a bit clueless about all this kind of thing,

    Thanks,
    HH


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    What's the problem with the netting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Doop


    Thanks for the reply Doop.

    Yes, ,we intend to contact the council.

    If we hire a planning consultant what are we asking? Is it exempted development?

    Does Class 33(c) allow them to do whatever they like?

    Sorry a bit clueless about all this kind of thing,

    Thanks,
    HH


    You would be asking them to review the development, with a view to making a submission to the council on your behalf / potentially liaise directly with the club and or their advisers.

    You are essentially asking them to represent you and the other neighbors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭hesker


    Yeah you should definitely get onto them but ask them if they can make it 20m high.

    I used to live in a house that backed onto a pitch. Kids were forever throwing stones to either break windows or set off burglar alarm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Doop wrote: »
    You would be asking them to review the development, with a view to making a submission to the council on your behalf / potentially liaise directly with the club and or their advisers.

    You are essentially asking them to represent you and the other neighbors.

    And pay a nice fat fee:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Doop


    And pay a nice fat fee:D

    Not much in life is free...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    What's the problem with the netting?

    No problem with netting at all.

    10m high netting so close to house towers over it - wouldn't be able to see over it from first floor.

    No discussion on this at all with anyone. Would be fairer to all to be retractable rather than permanently up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    And pay a nice fat fee:D

    What would be a ball park for this?


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    No problem with netting at all.

    10m high netting so close to house towers over it - wouldn't be able to see over it from first floor.

    No discussion on this at all with anyone. Would be fairer to all to be retractable rather than permanently up.

    Why do you need to see over "netting"?

    https://nettingdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maynooth-GAA-1024x1024.jpg

    Serious question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Why do you need to see over "netting"?



    Serious question.

    We've a lovely view at the moment i.e. we're not looking through the net to see that. Looking through a green net as you've show is like looking through a colour filter.

    I'm not saying I don't see the need for a net, or that I want to get the whole lot remove. That's not the case at all.

    There is a compromise though. Why have a net in place while the place is idle? We live in an age of technology!

    Neighbors should be prepared to compromise so a solution acceptable to all is found.

    Am I being naive?

    Anyways, back to the original post - can anybody provide some advice on a path forward if there is one

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    Hi All,

    The back of my house faces onto a sports field. My garden wall is 20 foot to back door.

    Came home from work one day 10m poles installed around perimeter. Less than 1m from back wall. No contact from club before install.

    Contacted club,netting to be installed, non retractable, 10m high. Communication very poor with myself and other residents since.

    No planning permission. I presume exempted development under Class 33(c).

    We’re not unreasonable people - recognize that netting is needed while games ongoing. However club doesn’t use pitch between Oct-Feb and for most of the week.

    Would also have liked to discuss the option of retractable netting as a fair solution to all. Netting at that height so close to house is imposing.

    I’m asking for peoples opinions please.

    Is there another solution? Do we approach council? How? Some advice?

    Thanks,
    NN

    The the 10m pole is approx 6.5m away from your house, Id imagine they cant do that encase of the poles falling and hitting your structure. I know a domestic wind turbine for example would need to fall within its own boundary, I cant see this being any different. Id imagine this is also a different situation to eircom/esb poles as in most cases these are existing or replaced structures, not new ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    What would be a ball park for this?

    It's usually people other than the OP that start taking the mickey :pac:

    Out of curiosity, would you have had many instances of balls and the likes ending up in the garden before the netting went up?

    Or did other neighbours perhaps and complained about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    wexie wrote: »
    It's usually people other than the OP that start taking the mickey :pac:

    Out of curiosity, would you have had many instances of balls and the likes ending up in the garden before the netting went up?

    Or did other neighbours perhaps and complained about it?

    In terms of balls in the garden, once in a year. Not sure about other neighbors complaining, it’s a possibility. Insurance premiums most likely.

    Like I said, not opposed to net per se, opposed to non retractable netting

    Netting not up yet btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nice_neighbour


    JimmyMW wrote: »
    The the 10m pole is approx 6.5m away from your house, Id imagine they cant do that encase of the poles falling and hitting your structure. I know a domestic wind turbine for example would need to fall within its own boundary, I cant see this being any different. Id imagine this is also a different situation to eircom/esb poles as in most cases these are existing or replaced structures, not new ones.

    You would think so.

    There is no planning permission, we were told it was not required.

    So, I know that there is exempted development for sports fields. But is this for any structure?

    It seems bizarre that you can put up something like this without planning and an engineers report at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Insurance premiums most likely.

    Ah was wondering why they'd be putting them up now. I guess that makes some kind of twisted sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭dk1979


    Hi, Just wondering how did this all end up. Something similar happening to the rear of my home at present.


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