Is toxic masculinity a ''cowardly'' identity?

nigel_wilson

Wonder what your opinions are on this. My male feminist friend says that toxic masculinity has been responsible for privileged men throughout history abusing those weaker than them (in particular their wives and children) but also dominating primitive tribes like the conquistadors of Spain and the Native Americans.

Do you think he is right? Maybe ''cowardly'' is too strong of a world but there was some study a while back that showed female leaders were more empathetic and rational than male ones. They even said if women had been in some high finance positions in Wall Street, the recession wouldn't have happened.

VinLieger

nigel_wilson wrote: »

My male feminist friend

Does he wear a fedora?

HappyAsLarE

It doesn’t exist.

Most men treat the women in their lives better than anyone else.

verycool

Society loves labels. Everyone can rally behind a label, until the label doesn't make sense any more and we were wondering what we were arguing about in the first place.

The Backwards Man

Do people really think about this crap all the time?

Have you no turf to take home?
No grass to cut?
No strawberries to water?

Must be a poor life to lead.

Ulysses Gaze

Never trust a male feminist.

Pac1Man

nigel_wilson wrote: »

My male feminist friend

Be wary. Any man who identifies as that is most likely hiding some skeletons. It's a powerful ruse used to safely navigate through certain obstacles to get close.

BattleCorp

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Do you think he is right? Maybe ''cowardly'' is too strong of a world but there was some study a while back that showed female leaders were more empathetic and rational than male ones. They even said if women had been in some high finance positions in Wall Street, the recession wouldn't have happened.

Yep, they were dead right. Women are much more empathetic. That Margaret Thatcher was a right soft sweetheart. :pac:

jcorr

Toxic masculinity?

Wait who's playing in the world cup tonight?

super_furry

I don't believe that anyone actually speaks like that outside of a handful of daft columnists and obsessed internet folk who seem to think they're fighting in the vanguard of some online war.

DrumSteve

Is there any way we can bar that phrase from entry into the country?

super_furry

jcorr wrote: »

Toxic masculinity?

Wait who's playing I'm the world cup tonight?

Uruguay v Russia up now and Richie Sadlier reckons the Ruskies are back on the super-juice.

Lucena

I'd imagine most men are feminists (wanting equal rights and opportunities for men and women). It's just that the word feminist has become such a loaded term that few people would willingly call themselves feminists.

Chips Lovell

It maybe the 100th time the topic has been raised here, but I'm sure the thread will be peppered with new, interesting and, as yet, unaired opinions.

Mr. CooL ICE

Mod: After Hours doesn't need any more of this sh1te tbh