Roundup hay

K.G.

Sprayed off old grass last friday which originally was going in the pit but getting notions of making hay and selling.anyone do it and is the hay allright and would lads buy it.its browning already so id say it would make hay in three days

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Lads would buy anything they don't know about!

But personally in my situation I'm trying to stop using round up completely as I'm starting to turn crusty and believe that multinational agri haven't got the health and wellbeing of people or animals in mind only profit, profit, profit and sicker people/animals means more profit.

But each to their own.

(Btw that's a slight on you but just maybe we should all ask ourselves is it really necessary what we are doing and is there another way to not have that chemical going into the food chain).

*gets off podium.

charolais0153

Say my name wrote: »

Lads would buy anything they don't know about!

But personally in my situation I'm trying to stop using round up completely as I'm starting to turn crusty and believe that multinational agri haven't got the health and wellbeing of people or animals in mind only profit, profit, profit and sicker people/animals means more profit.

But each to their own.

(Btw that's a slight on you but just maybe we should all ask ourselves is it really necessary what we are doing and is there another way to not have that chemical going into the food chain).

*gets off podium.

Ploughing does worse than roundup id say

Kuva

Ah shure whatever is quick and handy for another while yet, ha, amiright?

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charolais0153 wrote: »

Ploughing does worse than roundup id say

Before this turns into an anti roundup thread on my part.
The hay will look like hay and feed like hay it's just that there'll be traces of roundup on it. It'll be the very same as gm feed fed and risk/non risk from them.
That's the best simplest explanation I can give.



On the ploughing part there's no chemicals used in ploughing. Remember I posted before about elements on this earth don't disappear they just move around if moved. It's the same principle with sprays any elements in them don't disappear they just get moved around or maybe they don't move but stay in the soil which may be worse.
Anyway onto ploughing. Ploughing uses no chemicals. The damage that ploughing does is it destroys the fungal life in the soil. But that can come back. It won't destroy the bacterial life in the soil obviously but the same cannot be said for ANY chemical application. There's bound to be casualties in the soil.

Waffletraktor

Say my name wrote: »

Before this turns into an anti roundup thread on my part.
The hay will look like hay and feed like hay it's just that there'll be traces of roundup on it. It'll be the very same as gm feed fed and risk/non risk from them.
That's the best simplest explanation I can give.



On the ploughing part there's no chemicals used in ploughing. Remember I posted before about elements on this earth don't disappear they just move around if moved. It's the same principle with sprays any elements in them don't disappear they just get moved around or maybe they don't move but stay in the soil which may be worse.
Anyway onto ploughing. Ploughing uses no chemicals. The damage that ploughing does is it destroys the fungal life in the soil. But that can come back. It won't destroy the bacterial life in the soil obviously but the same cannot be said for ANY chemical application. There's bound to be casualties in the soil.

Bit like all those parrasite doses in animals designed to litterally poison something.

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Waffletraktor wrote: »

Bit like all those parrasite doses in animals designed to litterally poison something.

Yep.
And what's worse is some people have bred parasites to be immune from overuse of doses.
I haven't dosed at all this year and with the dry year and no coughing I see no need.
Yet I can guarrantee you there'll be people on their third or fourth round of dosing so far this year and still complaining that the dosing is not working. But it's always someone else's fault.

wrangler

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Yep.
And what's worse is some people have bred parasites to be immune from overuse of doses.
I haven't dosed at all this year and with the dry year and no coughing I see no need.
Yet I can guarrantee you there'll be people on their third or fourth round of dosing so far this year and still complaining that the dosing is not working. But it's always someone else's fault.

Do you do any proper trials supporting what you're saying here, you seem to be blazing a trail in innovative farming......or are you.
We're doing some dosing and recording here this year for teagasc.
Have you done any FECs, What age are the stock, we have adult sheep here that never get dosed, what's your stocking rate....it all makes a difference

riemann

K.G. wrote: »

Sprayed off old grass last friday which originally was going in the pit but getting notions of making hay and selling.anyone do it and is the hay allright and would lads buy it.its browning already so id say it would make hay in three days

So you're both lazy and greedy?

Mod note.... This type of post is unnecessary, no need for it... We'll do rightly without it.
The OP does not need to be subjected to this. So we'll leave it at that.
Thanks. GC

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wrangler wrote: »

Do you do any proper trials supporting what you're saying here, you seem to be blazing a trail in innovative farming......or are you.
We're doing some dosing and recording here this year for teagasc.
Have you done any FECs, What age are the stock, we have adult sheep here that never get dosed, what's your stocking rate....it all makes a difference

Most of what I post especially the biochar thread I haven't done on farm it's just to raise awareness.
But if I say I've done on farm I've done on farm.

Stocking rate is roughly 2.3/ha. That's being comfortable and sustainable imv.
No fecal egg counts. No kt groups. Just visual front and end of stock with a constant moving of stock.
Milk testing through Glanbia is used to keep an eye on parasites too.
Common sense really with a healthy scepticism of someone else telling you to do a thing.

Waffletraktor

riemann wrote: »

So you're both lazy and greedy?

Nah nah no!! Bayer bought Monsanto so it's all Lakka now on the Glyphosate is liquid Novichok now Bru

K.G.

For f##k sake.close the thread please