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BCMS uploads

  • 15-06-2018 3:59pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26


    Does anybody know what exactly has to be uploaded to the BCMS website. we are opting out and want to do as much of the work ourselves.
    Has anybody on here done this before, id like to hear your experience of it and what you uploaded.
    I was also told that a prelim BER has to be done even though we are opting out. can anybody tell me if this is true or not?
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    The minimum required varies from council to council. But as a starting point a set of construction drawings and details accompanied by a specification that shows how it complies with the building regulations.

    The only way to show how your house complies with Part L of the energy regulations is to carry out a DEAP Assessment - this is the same process used to produce a BER. You do not need a physical "Preliminary BER Certificate" but you do need get all the calculations done that would be required to produce one and you will need to pay the assessor to do them.

    There is a reasonable chance the person supervising your house construction and doing the construction drawings would be able to do this.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    darrmolo wrote: »
    Does anybody know what exactly has to be uploaded to the BCMS website. we are opting out and want to do as much of the work ourselves.
    Has anybody on here done this before, id like to hear your experience of it and what you uploaded.
    I was also told that a prelim BER has to be done even though we are opting out. can anybody tell me if this is true or not?
    Thanks

    yes it is true (if youre building a new one off house)

    you also need building regulation complaint drawings, which basically are constuction drawings

    the website is a nightmare to use though.... slow clunky and full of silly questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 darrmolo


    The minimum required varies from council to council. But as a starting point a set of construction drawings and details accompanied by a specification that shows how it complies with the building regulations.

    The only way to show how your house complies with Part L of the energy regulations is to carry out a DEAP Assessment - this is the same process used to produce a BER. You do not need a physical "Preliminary BER Certificate" but you do need get all the calculations done that would be required to produce one and you will need to pay the assessor to do them.

    There is a reasonable chance the person supervising your house construction and doing the construction drawings would be able to do this.

    My understanding was that opting out ment you were opting out of all regulations.
    Is this not true?


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    darrmolo wrote: »
    My understanding was that opting out ment you were opting out of all regulations.
    Is this not true?

    God no.

    You need to do a lot more reading up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    Totally incorrect.

    You still have to comply with ALL of the building regulations.
    .
    You are just opting out of submitting some of the forms that confirm this compliance. You are still legally obliged to comply with the building regulations and by opting out you are taking more of that responsibility upon yourself because you have less experts to oversee and sign off.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    darrmolo wrote: »
    My understanding was that opting out ment you were opting out of all regulations.
    Is this not true?

    You need to employ a professional ASAP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 darrmolo


    kceire wrote: »
    You need to employ a professional ASAP.

    I think your right 🙈


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    darrmolo wrote: »
    I think your right ��

    You’ll need one anyway for structure and certification. Best to get them early and go through the commencement notice requirements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    The pre BER is a very VERY important part of building today. I did mine as a by-the-way kind of thing and that was a mistake. It also guarantees the your building will be Part L compliant. You'd be amazed at the amount of people in the building trade that are not up to speed on modern building techniques. For example my plumber never heard of air tightness tape.
    Go to a BER Assessor. Listen to them. Explore your options. Then get a second opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 darrmolo


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    The pre BER is a very VERY important part of building today. I did mine as a by-the-way kind of thing and that was a mistake. It also guarantees the your building will be Part L compliant. You'd be amazed at the amount of people in the building trade that are not up to speed on modern building techniques. For example my plumber never heard of air tightness tape.
    Go to a BER Assessor. Listen to them. Explore your options. Then get a second opinion.

    Where would the second opinion come from? Another assessor?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    darrmolo wrote: »
    Where would the second opinion come from? Another assessor?

    Yes or engineer or heating expert etc or someone who has the system/insulation that your assessor recommend s for you.


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