Puppy - had 2nd Vacc. How long to go out?

Pixied

Hi

Our puppy had her 2nd lot of vaccinations, nothing due now for another year.

How long do I need to wait until I can take her out? I forgot to ask.

Thanks!
P

00sully

Pixied wrote: »

Hi

Our puppy had her 2nd lot of vaccinations, nothing due now for another year.

How long do I need to wait until I can take her out? I forgot to ask.

Thanks!
P

Recommendation was 2 weeks for us anyway

Knine

I bring them out straight away. The vet would be horrified but social skills are important. Never any issues. Before then I bring them out by carrying them around. The result is bombproof dogs.

boomerang

Approx. a week from date of second vaccination.

Pixied

Thanks everyone.

I rang the vets and they said two weeks.
The neighbour just told me she was told one week at a different vet.
Bit confusing.

She's great with the kids, friendly and confident. I would like to see her socialising with other dogs very soon. She met some dogs in the surgery and was a bit put out.

TheMilkyPirate

I had my pup out the next day after getting her vacs, she was delighted walking around did her no harm.

VonVix

Keep in mind vets have to cover themselves. If they say to you "it's fine" and something happens to your puppy, you'll blame them.

I personally will never keep my future puppies indoors until the vet gives the OK, I would avoid areas that are highly populated with unfamiliar dogs (public parks/dog parks), but that's about it. It's far too valuable a period to waste when it comes to socialising your puppy and getting them used to the outside world.

mvl

on this recommendation (personally I read about 1 week previously, but didn't ask a vet about it) : does it mean out like in places where they can meet other dogs ?
or is it out like in the back yard ?

Pixied

When I say 'out' I mean beyond my house and back garden.

So generally, I mean on pathways around our area where we may pass other dogs.

muddypaws

Carry the dog around, rather than walking on the ground. Animal rescue charity shops are usually open to dogs going in the shop. Go and hang out at a school at going in or coming out time - be aware that you may be asked why you are there.

Hardware shops are usually ok as well. Our local Lidl has a large entry hall with benches and a coffee machine, good place to sit and hang out with the pup. Or find a local cafe with an outside area, ask if you can sit there, grab a coffee and sit watching the world go by with the pup.

Socialisation needs to be positive though, bring treats (sausages are usually good) just feed, don't ask for any behaviours, you just want to get the pup to feel good and safe about different situations.

Then, when the time advised by your vet is up, normal walks on the ground.

mvl

Pixied wrote: »

When I say 'out' I mean beyond my house and back garden.

So generally, I mean on pathways around our area where we may pass other dogs.

does it also mean meeting other vaccinated dogs may be ok for a newly vaccinated pup ?

Pixied

mvl wrote: »

does it also mean meeting other vaccinated dogs may be ok for a newly vaccinated pup ?

I don't have any answers really that's why I'm posting. There is no practical way of knowing which dogs are vaccinated or not. I guess that's part of the problem.

tk123

mvl wrote: »

does it also mean meeting other vaccinated dogs may be ok for a newly vaccinated pup ?

I would say yes - Bailey was 4 when Lucy arrived in the house so she was exposed to him and other puppies in puppy class before she had her 2nd injection. When my friend got a pup last year my two went over to have 'play dates' with her just so she could meet older dogs...she was a terrible biter and my friend was hoping they might discipline her too but not a chance I don't boost my two at this stage as they don't need it and we haven't left a trail of dead pups behind us lol

em_cat

tk123 wrote: »

I would say yes - Bailey was 4 when Lucy arrived in the house so she was exposed to him and other puppies in puppy class before she had her 2nd injection. When my friend got a pup last year my two went over to have 'play dates' with her just so she could meet older dogs...she was a terrible biter and my friend was hoping they might discipline her too but not a chance I don't boost my two at this stage as they don't need it and we haven't left a trail of dead pups behind us lol

You get Lucy & Baily titre tested don’t you? I would love to know where as I have asked several vets and they don’t do titre testing but given where we live Id rather vaccinate than not.

tk123

em_cat wrote: »

You get Lucy & Baily titre tested don’t you? I would love to know where as I have asked several vets and they don’t do titre testing but given where we live Id rather vaccinate than not.

Any vet that uses Axiom labs can draw blood and send it off for you (It's called vaccicheck) - they don't need the kit in house or send to UCD etc. I know Anicare uses them as does the vet we've moved to - Cara Vet. I payed around €55 I think? Beware of 'holistic' vets charging a premium to do it.

em_cat

tk123 wrote: »

Any vet that uses Axiom labs can draw blood and send it off for you (It's called vaccicheck) - they don't need the kit in house or send to UCD etc. I know Anicare uses them as does the vet we've moved to - Cara Vet. I payed around €55 I think? Beware of 'holistic' vets charging a premium to do it.

Thanks, never been to a holistic vet but thanks for the heads up. Our local vet is pretty much use taking Mr C's blood on request but I know they have to send it off and the rates depend on whats being checked.

We've just started going the Anicare in Palmerstown for our guinea pigs but for Mr C we never considered moving; will check with our local to see if they can do it. If not I will try Anicare. Cheers

Sorry OP, as others have said vets have to cover themselves which why they recommend the 2 weeks, but I would definitely take your pup out and about as much as possible but maybe keep paws off the ground if you are concerned and defo stay away from OPWw/coco/GAA grounds as they are usually kettled entrances and that's where the outbreaks are most likely to occur or so I've been told.

But then again one vet I know said that they blame the coco's pest control policy for the upsurge in cancers they are seeing...

tk123

Yeah possibly they don't realise. The first time I got it done in Cara they did it in house with the kit but now they send it off!

sillysmiles

em_cat wrote: »

defo stay away from OPWw/coco/GAA grounds as they are usually kettled entrances and that's where the outbreaks are most likely to occur or so I've been told.

What are kettled entrances?

But then again one vet I know said that they blame the coco's pest control policy for the upsurge in cancers they are seeing...

In what way? Canine cancers or human?

em_cat

sillysmiles wrote: »

What are kettled entrances?

That’s what I call the entrances like at Sundrive Park or the ones into the War Memorial, they force all to access via one point & force cyclists to dismount


In what way? Canine cancers or human?

Context is probably needed; comment made when we where having a wee convo a few weeks after our shi tzu x had passed away from renal cancer last year; the cancer was incredibly aggressive.

I took it that he was referring to canine & I imagine that it was the grief he felt at the time that spawned it, however grain of salt ya know...

mobby

tk123 wrote: »

Any vet that uses Axiom labs can draw blood and send it off for you (It's called vaccicheck) - they don't need the kit in house or send to UCD etc. I know Anicare uses them as does the vet we've moved to - Cara Vet. I payed around €55 I think? Beware of 'holistic' vets charging a premium to do it.

http://vaccicheck.com/

This crowd will do Titer tests for you, they have a Map on their Facebook page of locations in Ireland, not to many at the moment but i have got my local vet in Nth Kildare involved with them,and have our lad booked in for testing on Monday cost is €66.
Too answer the OP, our lad was out after a couple of days and was grand.

tk123

mobby wrote: »

http://vaccicheck.com/

This crowd will do Titer tests for you, they have a Map on their Facebook page of locations in Ireland, not to many at the moment but i have got my local vet in Nth Kildare involved with them,and have our lad booked in for testing on Monday cost is €66.
Too answer the OP, our lad was out after a couple of days and was grand.

Axiom do the same test. I guess the cost of stocking the test is prohibitive to the vets - I know our's are on that map but don't stock it anymore. They send the blood out instead.

BillieT

Pixied wrote: »

Hi

Our puppy had her 2nd lot of vaccinations, nothing due now for another year.

How long do I need to wait until I can take her out? I forgot to ask.

Thanks!
P

If you get a very young puppy, the vet recommends vaccinations at 6, 8 and 10 weeks old. Your puppy can go out after the 10 week one.
Most people get the 8 and 10 week vaccinations, and its safe to go out the next day.
Info supplied by a vet

tk123

BillieT wrote: »

If you get a very young puppy, the vet recommends vaccinations at 6, 8 and 10 weeks old. Your puppy can go out after the 10 week one.
Most people get the 8 and 10 week vaccinations, and its safe to go out the next day.
Info supplied by a vet

no way would I let a Vet vaccinate a pup 4 times.. some vets also recommend one vaccine at 16 weeks now and that’s it for life

em_cat

tk123 wrote: »

no way would I let a Vet vaccinate a pup 4 times.. some vets also recommend one vaccine at 16 weeks now and that’s it for life

With tk123 on this one, although I support the value & use of vaccines, there is a case of too much. It really isn’t that expensive or difficult to check levels of antibodies before vaccinating.

mobby

em_cat wrote:

With tk123 on this one, although I support the value & use of vaccines, there is a case of too much. It really isn’t that expensive or difficult to check levels of antibodies before vaccinating.

Same here way too much over vaccinating of pets, the breeder of our lad told me that as far as she was concerned he was vaccinated for life after the first vaccine,but I did go with our vet for a booster and will now have him titre tested in future.

BillieT

tk123 wrote: »

no way would I let a Vet vaccinate a pup 4 times.. some vets also recommend one vaccine at 16 weeks now and that’s it for life

Well 6, 8 and 10 weeks is only three vaccines. Most people only get two, One at 6 weeks old and the 2nd one at 8 weeks old.
I've never heard of a vaccine that would last a lifetime, (Though that doesn't mean there isn't one) but 16 weeks is definitely too late to start vaccinations. The puppy would have no protection, and you'd have to keep it inside for 4 months??
I volunteer with a dog rescue, and to see a tiny puppy with parvo is horrific.

Knine

Oh I don't vaccinate puppies until 8 weeks. Once they are fine after that they go to their new homes and then get a second Vaccine with their new owners vets. 3 vaccines are too much imo in such a young puppy. I discuss with new owners - vaccines, not treating dogs for fleas unless they have them & the pros & cons of spaying/neutering, worming also

muddypaws

The only vaccination that a pup would get at 6 weeks is parvo as far as I'm aware. The core vaccines can't be given before the pup is 8 weeks old, then again 2-4 weeks later. As we didn't know how old Diefer was, he had his first vaccination at what we thought was 8 weeks, another 4 weeks later and another 4 weeks after that, in case he wasn't actually 8 weeks for the first one.

The rescue litters that have been born here in the past had parvo at 6 weeks.

boomerang

The six week parvo vacc would be important in situations where there are a lot of puppies together - e.g. rescue shelters, breeders.

You won't get lifelong immunity against bacterial diseases with a single vaccination.

Springwell

The six week Parvo vaccination isn't standard, it's where maternal immunity is questionable - puppy farm seizures, litters in rescue centres, the pups seized at the docks etc.

8 and 10 weeks is normal - there's no reason not to take pup out in your arms to busy areas, to meet vaccinated dogs or to walk in isolated areas after the second jab just give it ten days before you go to areas with heavy dog traffic like beaches and dogs parks. Socialization is important and can be achieved safely with a bit of thought