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Marriage cert query

  • 08-06-2018 3:11pm
    #1
    Meursault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    I have signed up to findmypast and its a fantastic source of information.

    I have two queries, that I was hoping someone might be able to help with:

    1. It appears the mother's name does not appear on marriage certs or indexes. Is there any reason for this?

    2. While researching for details on my great grandparents, I noticed my great grandfather had "pensioner" as his occupation, even though he was likely to be in his early 30s and two years later he was fighting in World War 1.

    Is there any reason why he would be classed as "pensioner"? It seems very odd for someone so young to be classed as this.

    Thanks.


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  • #2
    Meursault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Meursault


    ....Sorry, I meant to say also that this was the occupation that was entered on the same marriage cert


  • #3
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    He could have been a pensioner from the police, or another job.


  • #4
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    It would be a good idea to have a read of our sticky, which covers a lot of basic info.

    Mothers' names were not included on marriage certs until 1956.

    Pensioner usually means army pensioner, but as Spurious says, it could be the police too.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #5
    Meursault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Meursault


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    It would be a good idea to have a read of our sticky, which covers a lot of basic info.

    Mothers' names were not included on marriage certs until 1956.

    Pensioner usually means army pensioner, but as Spurious says, it could be the police too.

    okay, thanks again for the advice guys.


  • #6
    tabbey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Meursault wrote: »
    I noticed my great grandfather had "pensioner" as his occupation, even though he was likely to be in his early 30s and two years later he was fighting in World War 1.

    Is there any reason why he would be classed as "pensioner"? It seems very odd for someone so young to be classed as this.

    Army pensioners were on half pay, but could be called up immediately in the event of war. This is why your ancestor was fighting in the Great War.

    It is impossible to quantify, but it is often said that a majority of the Irish soldiers in WW1, were those called up from half pay, who had been regular soldiers in the army before, during or after the Boer War.


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  • #7
    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    I'm not 100% on this, but 'Half Pay' was available only for officers? I think that those who had served in the army were classed as 'reservists' for a period of years and were the first to be recalled in time of war . I do know that Kitchener in the early stages of WW1 wanted to keep the trained men back from the fighting as they were too valuable - he wanted them to train raw recruits.


  • #8
    Meursault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Meursault


    This is very helpful. Thanks again guys. My great grandfather was actually born in to the army. He was born in Hong Kong. His father was also a soldier and I believe his mother was a nurse in the army. I believe they were stationed in India, but I've had no luck tracing them, other than confirmation that they were in the army.


  • #9
    cat_r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭cat_r


    Meursault wrote: »
    ... I believe they were stationed in India, but I've had no luck tracing them, other than confirmation that they were in the army.

    The website of the Families in British India society may be worth a look: https://www.fibis.org


  • #10
    Meursault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Meursault


    cat_r wrote: »
    The website of the Families in British India society may be worth a look: https://www.fibis.org

    Thanks a million. I'll take a look.


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