International taxation or double Irish taxation

sexmag

Hi,

I set up a thread in the taxation forum but its not a very busy forum so maybe the mods could close that one if someone could give me a quick answer here if add some legal questions?

I currently live and work in Ireland.

I've been offered an online job in my off peak hours for a company based in germany.

Is there any law preventing someone working 2 jobs in 2 different countries?

How does that work tax wise?

I've checked online and can't really find a specific answer

Do I pay higher tax in Ireland,do I pay tax in Germany as well and then get tax in ireland when i get paid?

Or are there other things to factor in and has anyone done something like this before?

I haven't accepted or asked them yet, thought I would check here first

Thanks

photosmart

I'm not a tax advisor and if you really want a formal answer I would check with


1. Tax advisor
2. Revenue themselves


That said - essentially if you are tax domiciled in ireland and pay tax here then you will be declaring your second job as other income and filling in a form 12 if its under 5k (not sure of current limits) or form 11 if more than 5k. Oct 31st is the deadline for this in the year after the income ie for 2018 you will declare and submit form in 2019



You essentially put in a P&L ie income less expenses and are charged tax on your net profit.


Hope this helps


P

sexmag

photosmart wrote: »

I'm not a tax advisor and if you really want a formal answer I would check with


1. Tax advisor
2. Revenue themselves


That said - essentially if you are tax domiciled in ireland and pay tax here then you will be declaring your second job as other income and filling in a form 12 if its under 5k (not sure of current limits) or form 11 if more than 5k. Oct 31st is the deadline for this in the year after the income ie for 2018 you will declare and submit form in 2019



You essentially put in a P&L ie income less expenses and are charged tax on your net profit.


Hope this helps


P

Thats amazing thank you

I did follow up on the revenue site but their information seems to relate to addtional irish employment and not international ones.

Ill email them though to see if can get clarification

Peregrinus

There's an Ireland/Germany double taxation agreement which deals with such matters. It should be possible to arrange matters so that you are taxed in Ireland, and not in Germany. However it crucially matters whether your German job is classed as an "employment", under which you are employed by a German employer to do work in Ireland, or as a business under which you provide services in Ireland to a German customer. You should talk to an accountant in Ireland before you finalise your arrangements with your German employer/customer so as to ensure that the arrangement is structured and documented in the way that produces the best result for you. The accountant can also advise you on the practical steps you need to take to keep yourself straight with the Revenue and make sure the correct tax treatment is applied to you.

Victor

sexmag wrote: »

I've been offered an online job in my off peak hours for a company based in germany.

Jobs like this sound suspicious.

sexmag

Victor wrote: »

Jobs like this sound suspicious.

It's legit trust me,it's been in the pipe line for a while, I've already technically been doing the work free of charge but they would like to make it official because I'm so efficient

Glass fused light

The accountant needed to understand german tax and employment law as well as the Irish system.

Your current employer may also need to give permission for the additional work, plus control your total work hours.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Peregrinus wrote: »

There's an Ireland/Germany double taxation agreement which deals with such matters. It should be possible to arrange matters so that you are taxed in Ireland, and not in Germany. However it crucially matters whether your German job is classed as an "employment", under which you are employed by a German employer to do work in Ireland, or as a business under which you provide services in Ireland to a German customer. You should talk to an accountant in Ireland before you finalise your arrangements with your German employer/customer so as to ensure that the arrangement is structured and documented in the way that produces the best result for you. The accountant can also advise you on the practical steps you need to take to keep yourself straight with the Revenue and make sure the correct tax treatment is applied to you.

Is the work you're doing considered freiberufler/freelancer? If so, they'll pay you gross and it;s up to you to take care of your own tax commitments (i.e. tax on extra income to Ireland)

General details here.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/frequently-asked-questions/citizens-web-site-faq/double-taxation_en