TB reactors; what are they worth?

Pidae.m

Killed reactors during the week, got €3:18 for two fat p grade cows. 290kg dead. They were valued at 1:43/kg live. If you had a load of O & p cows you'd draw 380 and 370.

My point...... Do Roscrea make a fortune from reactors.

blue5000

Pidae.m wrote: »

Killed reactors during the week, got €3:18 for two fat p grade cows. 290kg dead. They were valued at 1:43/kg live. If you had a load of O & p cows you'd draw 380 and 370.

My point...... Do Roscrea make a fortune from reactors.

Do they value them according to ebi yet, are you locked up long? They definitely kill a lot of them anyway.

wrangler

Pidae.m wrote: »

Killed reactors during the week, got €3:18 for two fat p grade cows. 290kg dead. They were valued at 1:43/kg live. If you had a load of O & p cows you'd draw 380 and 370.

My point...... Do Roscrea make a fortune from reactors.

What percentage of reactors are proper beef, presume they have to provide a service to take the rubbish as well as the beef cattle

blue5000

wrangler wrote: »

What percentage of reactors are proper beef, presume they have to provide a service to take the rubbish as well as the beef cattle

I can't answer that, but 'proper' bordbia approved mince retails at 6.86/kg.

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

What percentage of reactors are proper beef, presume they have to provide a service to take the rubbish as well as the beef cattle

About 100% I imagine.

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

About 100% I imagine.

25% you mean, surely reactors come from all age groups and more importantly fatscores.
I was talking to a dairy farmer with a locked up herd that was telling me that the farmers that take cattle from reactor herds are worse.
He's down over €200/hd on over 100 lovely beef cross calves because off being locked up,.... plenty of farmers out there to ride you too.
That's a lot worse than taking a beating on a few miserable reactors

Mooooo

wrangler wrote: »

25% you mean, surely reactors come from all age groups and more importantly fatscores.
I was talking to a dairy farmer with a locked up herd that was telling me that the farmers that take cattle from reactor herds are worse.
He's down over €200/hd on over 100 lovely beef cross calves because off being locked up,.... plenty of farmers out there to ride you too.
That's a lot worse than taking a beating on a few miserable reactors

The amount of young animals that go down would be fairly negligible, so cows in milk would be the biggest group lacking beef but whatever beef they have can be used unless the animal kills out rotten with it, which is rare enough id say. Also the dep gives you comp for the value of the cow but depending on the time of year they go down the milk sales may be as great a loss. You're right 're trying to get feedlots to buy calves etc cos they know you have no other option. Was offered 100 each for 6 month old fr bulls once, didn't take it fortunately went clear 90 days later and got 450 then, a period they were at grass. But if you have extra calves that you wouldn't normally have it may be the only option to get rid of them for what ever you can get

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

The amount of young animals that go down would be fairly negligible, so cows in milk would be the biggest group lacking beef but whatever beef they have can be used unless the animal kills out rotten with it, which is rare enough id say. Also the dep gives you comp for the value of the cow but depending on the time of year they go down the milk sales may be as great a loss. You're right 're trying to get feedlots to buy calves etc cos they know you have no other option. Was offered 100 each for 6 month old fr bulls once, didn't take it fortunately went clear 90 days later and got 450 then, a period they were at grass. But if you have extra calves that you wouldn't normally have it may be the only option to get rid of them for what ever you can get

Are you reading today or tomorrow? Best of luck

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

25% you mean, surely reactors come from all age groups and more importantly fatscores.
I was talking to a dairy farmer with a locked up herd that was telling me that the farmers that take cattle from reactor herds are worse.
He's down over €200/hd on over 100 lovely beef cross calves because off being locked up,.... plenty of farmers out there to ride you too.
That's a lot worse than taking a beating on a few miserable reactors

Beef lost would be negligible as Moos says. Young cattle would be way less likely to go down. Vet said it to me as well. I have had farms locked up around me (dairy and suckler men) but vet said I should be ok. His advice was to try to kill all bullocks sub 30 or at least 36 months.

Mooooo wrote: »

The amount of young animals that go down would be fairly negligible, so cows in milk would be the biggest group lacking beef but whatever beef they have can be used unless the animal kills out rotten with it, which is rare enough id say. Also the dep gives you comp for the value of the cow but depending on the time of year they go down the milk sales may be as great a loss. You're right 're trying to get feedlots to buy calves etc cos they know you have no other option. Was offered 100 each for 6 month old fr bulls once, didn't take it fortunately went clear 90 days later and got 450 then, a period they were at grass. But if you have extra calves that you wouldn't normally have it may be the only option to get rid of them for what ever you can get

The issue with feedlots buying calves is that lads buying them are very few. most closed feedlot herds buy older cattle. calves and weanlings are usually not there lot. As well calves are way over priced to there actual commercial value and weanlings can be as well

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Are you reading today or tomorrow? Best of luck

Tomorrow, thanks

Mooooo

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Beef lost would be negligible as Moos says. Young cattle would be way less likely to go down. Vet said it to me as well. I have had farms locked up around me (dairy and suckler men) but vet said I should be ok. His advice was to try to kill all bullocks sub 30 or at least 36 months.




The issue with feedlots buying calves is that lads buying them are very few. most closed feedlot herds buy older cattle. calves and weanlings are usually not there lot. As well calves are way over priced to there actual commercial value and weanlings can be as well

Yeah bang on, also the dep are getting stricter on who they allow as feedlots, they prefer the lads who would be turning the cattle over faster into the factory and as you say calves don't suit that either